Hi Ellie,

thanks for your informations. I am evaluation the possibility to conduct a 
major release upgrade on
the affected systems (Debian Buster to Bullseye). This will upgrade Cyrus from 
3.0.8 to 3.2.X.
Hopefully this will resolve these problems.

Cheers
Jörg
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> Am 01.04.2022 um 02:05 schrieb ellie timoney <[email protected]>:
> 
> Hi Jörg,
> 
> This sounds a little bit like this Thunderbird issue:
> 
> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1708981 
> <https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1708981>
> 
> Two Cyrus bugs were found while it was being investigated, which were fixed 
> by:
> 
> https://github.com/cyrusimap/cyrus-imapd/pull/3605 
> <https://github.com/cyrusimap/cyrus-imapd/pull/3605>
> https://github.com/cyrusimap/cyrus-imapd/pull/3606 
> <https://github.com/cyrusimap/cyrus-imapd/pull/3606>
> https://github.com/cyrusimap/cyrus-imapd/pull/3664 
> <https://github.com/cyrusimap/cyrus-imapd/pull/3664>
> 
> These fixes are in Cyrus 3.2.9 and 3.4.3, and the 3.6 betas.
> 
> The fixes are not present in 3.0, because the code has changed too much since 
> then for the patches to apply.  The bugs probably are though.
> 
> I don't know what (if anything) changed from the Thunderbird side, I didn't 
> follow that part of the discussion.  Perhaps Thunderbird now expects the 
> server-side problems to be fixed, and doesn't compensate.
> 
> If you wanted to upgrade Cyrus while staying within apt, it looks like 
> buster-backports has 3.2.6-2~bpo10+1... though note that 3.2.6 is three 
> releases older than 3.2.9, so it won't have these fixes either unless the deb 
> maintainer has included them as patches.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> ellie
> 
> On Wed, 30 Mar 2022, at 9:54 PM, [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I hope, this is the correct channel to ask my question.
>> 
>> We discovered a very strange Bug on cyrus-imapd/oldstable,now 
>> 3.0.8-6+deb10u6 amd64 (Plain Debian Buster). Mail Clients, especially 
>> Thunderbird, must be restarted to see new (recent) Messages. 
>> 
>> With help from trustworthy Wireshark and "openssel s_client" I could break 
>> the effect/bug(?) down to some strange behavior:
>> 
>> With an active IDLE command, RECENT notifications won't get pushed to the 
>> client. IDLE won't
>> send any notifications.
>> SEARCH ALL or UID SEARCH ALL wont report newly arrived messages
>> Your have to perform a SELECT INBOX (or any other folder) to get new 
>> messages. After sending
>> SELECT INBOX both command (SEARCH and UID SEARCH) will report RECENT 
>> messages.
>> 
>> Is this a bug? A configuration error? Anyone got same effect? Any advice?
>> 
>> Greetings
>> Jörg
>> 
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