> Did you overlook plain "debug"?  You will need "debug: yes"

I did! Doh! Thanks so much.

Those logs are more illuminating, but ... not quite illuminating enough.

When Thunderbird connects it opens all of the folders, and it seems, keeps a 
connection open. I can see it doing `open: user phil opened XXXXX`.

But when Android mail connects, I get several `fetching user_deny.db entry for 
'phil'` and then:

> 2023-08-02T22:41:39.106718+00:00 virt cyrus/imaps[3012571]: 
> extractor_destroy((nil))

Sometimes it'll open one mailbox, and then just hang for a long time with lots 
of `fetching user_deny.db entry` entries... and eventually (~2 minutes) will 
get a extractor_destroy message.

What's weird is while this is far more common on cellular data, it also 
sometimes happens on wifi - the same wifi that my laptop is using fine.

I did a tcpdump and while it's hard to know for sure since everything is 
encrypted, it seems like the phone sends an unexpected FIN. I'll keep digging.


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