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Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 20:08:53 -0600
From: Bill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Hp site does not work, need help


Hello all,  My wifes computer will not take her to the  hp.com site.
Mine across the room goes just fine and I sent the page to her and she
still cannot get there.  She has tried Opera, Netscape and IE to no
avail.  I remember one time someone posted the page to retrieve the DNS
numbers and I thought perhaps she could get there like that.   Kinda
reminds me of the farmer telling some asking for directions that he
could not get there from here, he had to go over to the next farm and
start from there.
Thanks in advance,
Bill Anderson





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Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 21:15:31 -0500
From: "lensman3" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: * informant * Hp site does not work, need help


My computer will not get me to the PayPal site. My wife's will, using Juno
(shudder.)
I also get imbedded images or ads which come up with Note: cannot be ....
I have consulted AT&T (attbi) and PayPal to no avail.
HELP!

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Informant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 9:08 PM
Subject: * informant * Hp site does not work, need help


> Hello all,  My wifes computer will not take her to the  hp.com site.
> Mine across the room goes just fine and I sent the page to her and she
> still cannot get there.  She has tried Opera, Netscape and IE to no
> avail.  I remember one time someone posted the page to retrieve the DNS
> numbers and I thought perhaps she could get there like that.   Kinda
> reminds me of the farmer telling some asking for directions that he
> could not get there from here, he had to go over to the next farm and
> start from there.
> Thanks in advance,
> Bill Anderson
>
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Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 20:13:39 -0600
From: "Pam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: * informant * Hp site does not work, need help


Is she using AOL by chance?  I know that it blocks access to lots of sites,
wouldn't think it would block them though.
How about is she running any sort of web site filter program to block access
to certain sites by children?
Or what about cookies?  There are sites that will not allow access in any
form without cookies enabled.  Perhaps HP is one of them. This winds up the
reason my machine cannot access a lot of sites.... stinking cookies!
How about cache?  Have the temp files been emptied lately?  I doubt this one
would affect her ability but I'm just thinking out loud here.
Firewall.... is it set right?

That's all I can think of right off hand.  Hope one of them helps.

Pam

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 8:09 PM
> To: Informant
> Subject: * informant * Hp site does not work, need help
>
>
> Hello all,  My wifes computer will not take her to the  hp.com site.
> Mine across the room goes just fine and I sent the page to her and she
> still cannot get there.  She has tried Opera, Netscape and IE to no
> avail.  I remember one time someone posted the page to retrieve the DNS
> numbers and I thought perhaps she could get there like that.   Kinda
> reminds me of the farmer telling some asking for directions that he
> could not get there from here, he had to go over to the next farm and
> start from there.
> Thanks in advance,
> Bill Anderson
>
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Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 22:13:18 EST
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: AOL Re: * informant * Hp site does not work, need help



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I've been an AOL member since 1994. I had no problem accessing HP.com.
This is a persistant "fact" regarding AOL. I'd appreciate someone sending me 
links to a few of the sites AOL blocks. I've heard this for years and have 
yet to find a link that I could access through EarthLink and not through AOL.

I'm not attacking you personally, please don't take it as such.
I don't disagee with the many complaints of heavy-handedness with advertising 
or that the install program is much to invasive on a system. I do like that 
the mail is non-standard, as this means all the nasty little worms and virii 
that are written to exploit outlook and outlook express are benign from my 
perspective. 

There are Pros and Cons to every system and service, I only wish they could 
all be judged on facts.

Sterling

> Is she using AOL by chance?  I know that it blocks access to lots of sites,
> wouldn't think it would block them though.





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had no problem accessing HP.com.
<BR>This is a persistant "fact" regarding AOL. I'd appreciate someone sending me links 
to a few of the sites AOL blocks. I've heard this for years and have yet to find a 
link that I could access through EarthLink and not through AOL.
<BR>
<BR>I'm not attacking you personally, please don't take it as such.
<BR>I don't disagee with the many complaints of heavy-handedness with advertising or 
that the install program is much to invasive on a system. I do like that the mail is 
non-standard, as this means all the nasty little worms and virii that are written to 
exploit outlook and outlook express are benign from my perspective. 
<BR>
<BR>There are Pros and Cons to every system and service, I only wish they could all be 
judged on facts.
<BR>
<BR>Sterling
<BR>
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<BR>wouldn't think it would block them though.</FONT><FONT  COLOR="#000000" SIZE=3 
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Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 21:53:19 -0600
From: "holtenr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: * informant * Hp site does not work, need help


might want to check the content on IE.  Go to the internet, click on tools,
go to internet options and click on the tab content.  Check to make sure the
enable button is not enabled.
----- Original Message -----
From: "lensman3" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 8:15 PM
Subject: Re: * informant * Hp site does not work, need help


> My computer will not get me to the PayPal site. My wife's will, using Juno
> (shudder.)
> I also get imbedded images or ads which come up with Note: cannot be ....
> I have consulted AT&T (attbi) and PayPal to no avail.
> HELP!
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Informant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 9:08 PM
> Subject: * informant * Hp site does not work, need help
>
>
> > Hello all,  My wifes computer will not take her to the  hp.com site.
> > Mine across the room goes just fine and I sent the page to her and she
> > still cannot get there.  She has tried Opera, Netscape and IE to no
> > avail.  I remember one time someone posted the page to retrieve the DNS
> > numbers and I thought perhaps she could get there like that.   Kinda
> > reminds me of the farmer telling some asking for directions that he
> > could not get there from here, he had to go over to the next farm and
> > start from there.
> > Thanks in advance,
> > Bill Anderson
> >
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Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 22:24:27 -0600
From: "Pam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: AOL Re: * informant * Hp site does not work, need help


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I had a several page report in front of me about a year ago on stuff that
AOL was blocking.  According to the report, AOL denied doing such but was
proved to be lying and last I heard was being taken to court over the issue
by someone.... forgot whom.... maybe one of the sites that they were denying
access to.  I did not retain the report and do not use AOL.  I do not know
the outcome of any proceedings from this issue.

Personally, I have a long list of reasons I would never allow AOL anywhere
near my computers but that's not important here.  I know that a lot of
people are happy with AOL and I hear that for newcomers to the web it is
suppose to be great.  I've worked on machines using AOL and I absolutely do
not like them but I NEVER condemn those who do.

I am elated to hear that you do not experience the problem I mentioned and
sorry to learn that you take offense to my mentioning that possibility.  But
please remember that I did not condemn AOL, or comment on any pros or cons
about them.  I made a simple statement that is, whether you want to believe
it or not, documented fact.
I was merely trying to offer suggestions to the person with a problem which
is, I believe, what this list is for, right?
 I am sincerely sorry it upset you as that was never my intention.  I will
pull the plug before I intentionally upset someone.

Pam


  -----Original Message-----
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 9:13 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: AOL Re: * informant * Hp site does not work, need help


  I've been an AOL member since 1994. I had no problem accessing HP.com.
  This is a persistant "fact" regarding AOL. I'd appreciate someone sending
me links to a few of the sites AOL blocks. I've heard this for years and
have yet to find a link that I could access through EarthLink and not
through AOL.

  I'm not attacking you personally, please don't take it as such.
  I don't disagee with the many complaints of heavy-handedness with
advertising or that the install program is much to invasive on a system. I
do like that the mail is non-standard, as this means all the nasty little
worms and virii that are written to exploit outlook and outlook express are
benign from my perspective.

  There are Pros and Cons to every system and service, I only wish they
could all be judged on facts.

  Sterling


    Is she using AOL by chance?  I know that it blocks access to lots of
sites,
    wouldn't think it would block them though.



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<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=636435803-24012002>I had 
a several page report in front of me about a year ago on stuff that&nbsp;AOL was 
blocking.&nbsp; According to the report, AOL denied doing such but was proved to 
be lying and last I heard was being taken to court over the issue by someone.... 
forgot whom.... maybe one of the sites that they were denying access to.&nbsp; I 
did not retain the report and do not use AOL.&nbsp; I do not know the outcome of 
any proceedings from this issue.&nbsp;</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
class=636435803-24012002>&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
class=636435803-24012002>Personally, I have a long list of reasons I would never 
allow AOL anywhere near my computers but that's not important here.&nbsp; I know 
that a lot of people are happy with AOL and I hear that for newcomers to the web 
it is suppose to be great.&nbsp; I've worked on machines using AOL and I 
absolutely do not like them but I&nbsp;NEVER condemn those who 
do.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
class=636435803-24012002>&nbsp;</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=636435803-24012002>I am 
elated to hear that you do not experience the problem I mentioned and sorry to 
learn that you take offense to my mentioning that possibility.&nbsp; But please 
remember that I did not condemn AOL, or comment on any pros or cons about 
them.&nbsp; I made a simple statement that is, whether you want to believe it or 
not, documented fact.&nbsp; </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=636435803-24012002><FONT 
color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=636435803-24012002>I was merely 
trying to offer suggestions to the person&nbsp;</SPAN></FONT>with a problem 
which is, I believe, what this list is for, 
right?&nbsp;&nbsp;</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
class=636435803-24012002>&nbsp;I am&nbsp;sincerely sorry it upset you as that 
was never my intention.&nbsp; I will pull the plug before I intentionally upset 
someone.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
class=636435803-24012002></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
class=636435803-24012002>Pam</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
class=636435803-24012002>&nbsp;</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
class=636435803-24012002></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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  <DIV align=left class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr><FONT face=Tahoma 
  size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, January 23, 2002 9:13 
  PM<BR><B>To:</B> [EMAIL PROTECTED]<BR><B>Subject:</B> AOL Re: * informant * 
  Hp site does not work, need help<BR><BR></DIV></FONT><FONT 
  face=arial,helvetica><FONT size=2>I've been an AOL member since 1994. I had no 
  problem accessing HP.com. <BR>This is a persistant "fact" regarding AOL. I'd 
  appreciate someone sending me links to a few of the sites AOL blocks. I've 
  heard this for years and have yet to find a link that I could access through 
  EarthLink and not through AOL. <BR><BR>I'm not attacking you personally, 
  please don't take it as such. <BR>I don't disagee with the many complaints of 
  heavy-handedness with advertising or that the install program is much to 
  invasive on a system. I do like that the mail is non-standard, as this means 
  all the nasty little worms and virii that are written to exploit outlook and 
  outlook express are benign from my perspective. <BR><BR>There are Pros and 
  Cons to every system and service, I only wish they could all be judged on 
  facts. <BR><BR>Sterling <BR><BR>
  <BLOCKQUOTE 
  style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; 
PADDING-LEFT: 5px" 
  TYPE="CITE">Is she using AOL by chance? &nbsp;I know that it blocks access 
    to lots of sites, <BR>wouldn't think it would block them though.</FONT><FONT 
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Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 23:53:29 EST
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: AOL Re: * informant * Hp site does not work, need help



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In a message dated 1/23/2002 10:53:54 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
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> 
> I've been an AOL member since 1994. I had no problem accessing HP.com. 
> This is a persistant "fact" regarding AOL. I'd appreciate someone sending 
> me links to a few of the sites AOL blocks. I've heard this for years and 
> have yet to find a link that I could access through EarthLink and not 
> through AOL

As a matter of fact,HP has its own keyword,just type HP in the browser bar to 
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<BR>
<BR>
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I've been an AOL member since 1994. I had no problem accessing HP.com. <BR>
This is a persistant "fact" regarding AOL. I'd appreciate someone sending me links to 
a few of the sites AOL blocks. I've heard this for years and have yet to find a link 
that I could access through EarthLink and not through AOL</FONT><FONT  COLOR="#000000" 
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LANG="0"></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>
</FONT><FONT  COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 
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As a matter of fact,HP has its own keyword,just type HP in the browser bar to get 
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Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 00:52:07 -0500
From: Rita A Weed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: AOL vs BlueMountain e-greeting cards


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Pam

There was a time back a few years ago when AOL blocked BlueMountain 
e-greeting cards from being sent to anyone on AOL. It was taken to court and Blue 
Mountain won that suit. I don't recall all the details but I do recall the case.

Rita




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<DIV><BR>There was a time back a few years ago when AOL blocked BlueMountain 
</DIV>
<DIV>e-greeting cards from being sent to anyone on AOL. It was taken to court 
and Blue Mountain won that suit. I don't recall all the details but I do recall 
the case.</DIV>
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Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 00:28:00 -0600
From: "Pam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: * informant * AOL vs BlueMountain e-greeting cards


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I remember their name now that you mention it.  Perhaps "it" was the court
case I recall too.   There were a number of sites listed in the report I
had, seems to me about 15 well known and harmless like BlueMountain, along
with others.  In all fairness being a year or so ago, AOL has come out with
one or two new versions since then and may have eliminated that "feature" of
theirs, I don't know.

Pam
  -----Original Message-----
  From: Rita Weed [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 11:52 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: * informant * AOL vs BlueMountain e-greeting cards


  Pam

  There was a time back a few years ago when AOL blocked BlueMountain
  e-greeting cards from being sent to anyone on AOL. It was taken to court
and Blue Mountain won that suit. I don't recall all the details but I do
recall the case.

  Rita




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<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=549011406-24012002>I 
remember their name now that you mention it.&nbsp; Perhaps&nbsp;"it" was the 
court case I recall too.&nbsp;&nbsp; There were a number of sites listed in the 
report I had, seems to me about 15 well known and harmless like BlueMountain, 
along with others.&nbsp; In all fairness being a year&nbsp;or&nbsp;so ago, AOL 
has come out with one or two new versions since then and may have eliminated 
that "feature" of theirs, I don't know.&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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  size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Rita Weed 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, January 23, 2002 
  11:52 PM<BR><B>To:</B> [EMAIL PROTECTED]<BR><B>Subject:</B> * informant * 
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  <DIV><FONT color=#000080 size=2>Pam</FONT></DIV><FONT color=#000080 size=2>
  <DIV><BR>There was a time back a few years ago when AOL blocked BlueMountain 
  </DIV>
  <DIV>e-greeting cards from being sent to anyone on AOL. It was taken to court 
  and Blue Mountain won that suit. I don't recall all the details but I do 
  recall the case.</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>Rita</DIV>
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Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 07:14:23 -0500
From: "Lexi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: * informant * Hp site does not work, need help


Have come in on the tail end of this and it is not clear who is using what....

Re: unable to get to a site... Check to see if you have an active "hosts" file on your 
computer. If so, (and you didn't know or don't want it) delete it.

If it is just AOL that is blocking, then minimize AOL and open up Netscape or IE then 
browse to the site of choice.

Lex





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