On Jan 15, 2016 10:17, "Ralph Bean" <[email protected]> wrote: > > On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 02:46:38PM +0100, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: > > On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 04:41:58PM -0500, Ralph Bean wrote: > > > OK -- assessment time. How did Tech Debt Week go? > > > > > > There's a list at the bottom of the wiki page of the things we were > > > able to accomplish: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/Debt > > > > > > We got a good bit of ansible stuff cleaned up. Staging had a few > > > sites that were broken and we fixed those in tandem with fixing rube, > > > our staging-testing tool. We were able to silence some of the error > > > emails that were unnecessarily coming out of the bodhi backend (thus > > > raising the signal-to-noise ratio). And we were able to remove some > > > of the code duplication around python-fedora (both server side > > > components like flask_fas_openid and client-side components like the > > > openidbaseclient). That's a good chunk, especially for a first try > > > at organized tech debt fighting. > > > > > > I'll note that participation was not up to the level I was expecting. > > > It seemed like there was sizable interest at Flock and in infra > > > meetings at the end of 2015, but there were only a few of us actually > > > working on tech debt tasks during the week. > > > > > > I've been thinking about it and trying to come up with possible > > > explanations: > > > - It was the first time we tried something like this. We weren't sure > > > what to do and so we just need to try again until its comfortable. > > > - It was too poorly defined. We were pretty vague about what was > > > kinds of things to do. The intent was to open up people to pursue > > > what they want to hack on, but perhaps it was a turn-off. > > > - The first week of the New Year wasn't the best choice of time. > > > Perhaps people were anxious to get the jump on other projects after > > > the holidays and debt-wrangling wasn't attractive. > > > - Others? > > > > > > Should we try this again in a few months? If so, what should we try > > > differently? > > > > I kinda feel guilty on this to not have been of more help. One thing I have been > > wondering for this type of work is if we could approach it in a 'sprint' mode. > > Set-up a small meeting 15/30 minutes at the beginning of the day, review the > > tasks, everyone picks one, fix it and adjust the wiki. > > > Being able to review the tasks, pick the most important and spread them among > > the group might allow us to get into a team effort spirit. > > I like it! Timezones make it a little tricky since "beginning of the > day" varies for everyone. But we could do something each day where > people from one set of timezones could report "we did X today, we'll > do Y tomorrow" and people from the other timezones could say "cool, > we'll do Z today". > > > Might help giving the feeling you're not the only one doing boring work and > > helps to see progress (just like when you do a bug-process week where you try to > > close as many tickets as possible, the more you close, the more progress you > > see). > > > > > > Maybe an idea for next time :) > > Yeah. We should talk about a next time, too. Maybe late May or early > June? >
In glad we got this first one on the books, and I have a few ideas for next time: - badge for participation - promotional article on commblog - on-site satellite events, like the python3 porting hackfest in November 2015 - picking a day further from the holidays This was on my radar, but I was still catching up on other loops. Def wanna help do more and promote more next time around. Looking Forward, --RemyD. > > > > Pierre > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > infrastructure mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/[email protected] > > > _______________________________________________ > infrastructure mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/[email protected] >
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