On Fri, 26 Jun 2020 at 17:53, Kevin Fenzi <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Fri, Jun 26, 2020 at 10:32:14AM +0100, David Kirwan wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > If we are moving towards openshift/kubernetes backed services, we should
> > probably be sticking with containers rather than Vagrant. We can use CRC
> > [1] (Code Ready Containers) or minikube [2] for most local dev work.
> >
> > I'd be very much in favour of having an Infra managed Prometheus instance
> > (+ grafana and alertmanager on Openshift), its something I hoped to work
> on
> > within CPE sustaining infact.
>
> You know, I'm not in love with that stack. It could well be that I just
> haven't used it enough or know enough about it, but it seems just
> needlessly complex. ;(
>

Hmm the (prometheus, grafana, alertmanager) stack itself is pretty simple I
would have said, but I agree it is certainly complex when
installed/integrated on Openshift.. (most things are needlessly complex on
Openshift tbh, and its an order of magnitude worse on Openshift 4 with
these operators added to the mix).

It would be the obvious choice for me anyway considering this stack is
available by default on a fresh Openshift install. We could make use of
this cluster monitoring stack, especially if we're also deploying our
services on Openshift. I might throw a POC/demo together to show how "easy"
it is to get your app hooked into the Openshift cluster monitoring stack,
or the UserWorkload  tech preview monitoring stack[1].

If we did use this stack it would add a little extra pain with regards to
monitoring storage maintenance/pruning. But maybe far less than
running/maintaining a whole separate monitoring stack outside the Openshift
cluster. There are also efficiencies to be made when developers are already
in the Openshift/Kubernetes mindset, creating an extra Service and
ServiceMonitor is a minor thing etc.


- [1]
https://docs.openshift.com/container-platform/4.4/monitoring/monitoring-your-own-services.html

-- 
David Kirwan
Software Engineer

Community Platform Engineering @ Red Hat

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