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Today's Topics:
1. [InterNetNews/inn] 4fe713: Fix the use of Auto-Submitted
header field (Julien ?LIE)
2. [InterNetNews/inn] 0c4da4: Improve usage message (Julien ?LIE)
3. [InterNetNews/inn] 32eb57: Fix the use of Auto-Submitted
header field (Julien ?LIE)
4. [InterNetNews/inn] 82c42e: Fix NEWS for two previous commits
(Julien ?LIE)
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2023 04:32:00 -0800
From: Julien ?LIE <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: [InterNetNews/inn] 4fe713: Fix the use of Auto-Submitted
header field
Message-ID:
<InterNetNews/inn/push/refs/heads/main/[email protected]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
Branch: refs/heads/main
Home: https://github.com/InterNetNews/inn
Commit: 4fe713d0e57c42b993f6c0915baad355ff43c269
https://github.com/InterNetNews/inn/commit/4fe713d0e57c42b993f6c0915baad355ff43c269
Author: Julien ?LIE <[email protected]>
Date: 2023-01-31 (Tue, 31 Jan 2023)
Changed paths:
M backends/news2mail.in
M control/controlchan.in
M doc/pod/inn.conf.pod
M doc/pod/newsfeeds.pod
M nnrpd/post.c
Log Message:
-----------
Fix the use of Auto-Submitted header field
Use auto-generated for controlchan reports, and do not use that header
field at all for gatewaying (news2mail and nnrpd).
Thanks, Russ Allbery, for your wise thoughts:
The notifications sent by controlchan are not an autoreply to the
sender of the control message. They are a status report sent to the
news administrator about a change made (or proposed) on their news
server by a third party. As such, they're equivalent to the daily
report or the notification messages from innwatch. The fact that the
change to the server was initiated by a netnews message doesn't feel
horribly relevant. A "reply" by definition goes back to the sender
of the message; notification messages that go to third parties feel
inherently different.
Gatewaying (of which moderation is a subset) is yet a different thing,
and the Auto-Submitted header isn't appropriate here with any value.
These messages are not Auto-Submitted; they're, well, gatewayed.
This is equivalent to email forwarding; mail servers don't add
Auto-Submitted headers when they forward mails.
*If* we were encapsulating messages when sending them to moderators,
"Auto-Submitted: auto-generated" may be in the outer envelope, but
since we're transforming and forwarding a message, this is just part
of the message propagation path and thus should not be labeled with
Auto-Submitted. The message is not, in general, auto-submitted; it was
manually posted by the poster of the message, and we're just passing it
along to its ultimate recipient.
Also, on a more practical level, addition of this header is
potentially surprising to moderators. Their mail client may rightfully
downgrade or refile messages with Auto-Submitted headers, particularly
Auto-Submitted: auto-replied, since the vast majority of such messages
are vacation auto-replies that are of low importance or that people may
even auto-delete. There's some risk of confusing submitted posts for a
moderated group, which are relatively important mail, for relatively
unimportant mail like vacation autoreplies or automated status
messages.
see #255
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2023 04:34:26 -0800
From: Julien ?LIE <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: [InterNetNews/inn] 0c4da4: Improve usage message
Message-ID:
<InterNetNews/inn/push/refs/heads/2.7/[email protected]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
Branch: refs/heads/2.7
Home: https://github.com/InterNetNews/inn
Commit: 0c4da4486e6f7b871fdccda039c8de293b4c019e
https://github.com/InterNetNews/inn/commit/0c4da4486e6f7b871fdccda039c8de293b4c019e
Author: Julien ?LIE <[email protected]>
Date: 2023-01-31 (Tue, 31 Jan 2023)
Changed paths:
M authprogs/radius.c
M backends/actmerge.in
M backends/actsyncd.in
M contrib/mkbuf.in
M contrib/nnrp.access2readers.conf.in
M scripts/inncheck.in
M scripts/innupgrade.in
Log Message:
-----------
Improve usage message
Commit: ed32ba3ada6ed40d56545c37a42d383a65ef4aab
https://github.com/InterNetNews/inn/commit/ed32ba3ada6ed40d56545c37a42d383a65ef4aab
Author: Julien ?LIE <[email protected]>
Date: 2023-01-31 (Tue, 31 Jan 2023)
Changed paths:
M contrib/archivegz.in
Log Message:
-----------
archivegz: Migrate from newgetopt.pl to Getopt::Long
This script was no longer working on modern versions of Perl,
due to its use of newgetopt.pl and newusage.pl. Convert it
to use Getopt::Long instead.
Commit: 203259f6c5782a1ce83e9db08d519a0031b03707
https://github.com/InterNetNews/inn/commit/203259f6c5782a1ce83e9db08d519a0031b03707
Author: Julien ?LIE <[email protected]>
Date: 2023-01-31 (Tue, 31 Jan 2023)
Changed paths:
M scripts/innreport.in
Log Message:
-----------
innreport: Fix help usage for -maxunrec and -f
Commit: 51c0597355d3db23cd407a7c5033bb429ec10a07
https://github.com/InterNetNews/inn/commit/51c0597355d3db23cd407a7c5033bb429ec10a07
Author: Julien ?LIE <[email protected]>
Date: 2023-01-31 (Tue, 31 Jan 2023)
Changed paths:
M contrib/pullart.c
M contrib/tunefeed.in
M control/controlbatch.in
M frontends/cnfsheadconf.in
M frontends/cnfsstat.in
M frontends/ovdb_stat.c
M scripts/innreport.in
Log Message:
-----------
Exit with status 0 when printing usage message
Homogenize the exit status of INN programs when explicitly run with
a flag asking for printing their usage messages. Status 0 should be
returned instead of 1.
Also, homogenize the format of the usage message.
Commit: 7f315a46e287cb7c3d39320f307db03df1484d0a
https://github.com/InterNetNews/inn/commit/7f315a46e287cb7c3d39320f307db03df1484d0a
Author: Julien ?LIE <[email protected]>
Date: 2023-01-31 (Tue, 31 Jan 2023)
Changed paths:
M contrib/tunefeed.in
Log Message:
-----------
tunefeed: Proof-read documentation
Mention the use of getlist to retrieve a remote active file (instead
of manually typing a LIST ACTIVE command).
Time to bump its version number to 1.1 (a few changes has been made
since its original revision).
Compare: https://github.com/InterNetNews/inn/compare/30454f8ac1d8...7f315a46e287
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2023 04:34:58 -0800
From: Julien ?LIE <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: [InterNetNews/inn] 32eb57: Fix the use of Auto-Submitted
header field
Message-ID:
<InterNetNews/inn/push/refs/heads/2.7/[email protected]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
Branch: refs/heads/2.7
Home: https://github.com/InterNetNews/inn
Commit: 32eb5787f1a4b8a9a89096d502cd48e17b066d0b
https://github.com/InterNetNews/inn/commit/32eb5787f1a4b8a9a89096d502cd48e17b066d0b
Author: Julien ?LIE <[email protected]>
Date: 2023-01-31 (Tue, 31 Jan 2023)
Changed paths:
M backends/news2mail.in
M control/controlchan.in
M doc/pod/inn.conf.pod
M doc/pod/newsfeeds.pod
M nnrpd/post.c
Log Message:
-----------
Fix the use of Auto-Submitted header field
Use auto-generated for controlchan reports, and do not use that header
field at all for gatewaying (news2mail and nnrpd).
Thanks, Russ Allbery, for your wise thoughts:
The notifications sent by controlchan are not an autoreply to the
sender of the control message. They are a status report sent to the
news administrator about a change made (or proposed) on their news
server by a third party. As such, they're equivalent to the daily
report or the notification messages from innwatch. The fact that the
change to the server was initiated by a netnews message doesn't feel
horribly relevant. A "reply" by definition goes back to the sender
of the message; notification messages that go to third parties feel
inherently different.
Gatewaying (of which moderation is a subset) is yet a different thing,
and the Auto-Submitted header isn't appropriate here with any value.
These messages are not Auto-Submitted; they're, well, gatewayed.
This is equivalent to email forwarding; mail servers don't add
Auto-Submitted headers when they forward mails.
*If* we were encapsulating messages when sending them to moderators,
"Auto-Submitted: auto-generated" may be in the outer envelope, but
since we're transforming and forwarding a message, this is just part
of the message propagation path and thus should not be labeled with
Auto-Submitted. The message is not, in general, auto-submitted; it was
manually posted by the poster of the message, and we're just passing it
along to its ultimate recipient.
Also, on a more practical level, addition of this header is
potentially surprising to moderators. Their mail client may rightfully
downgrade or refile messages with Auto-Submitted headers, particularly
Auto-Submitted: auto-replied, since the vast majority of such messages
are vacation auto-replies that are of low importance or that people may
even auto-delete. There's some risk of confusing submitted posts for a
moderated group, which are relatively important mail, for relatively
unimportant mail like vacation autoreplies or automated status
messages.
------------------------------
Message: 4
Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2023 04:37:47 -0800
From: Julien ?LIE <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: [InterNetNews/inn] 82c42e: Fix NEWS for two previous commits
Message-ID:
<InterNetNews/inn/push/refs/heads/main/[email protected]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
Branch: refs/heads/main
Home: https://github.com/InterNetNews/inn
Commit: 82c42ee137a6e3f3df1a81612e4247cb833cc9f1
https://github.com/InterNetNews/inn/commit/82c42ee137a6e3f3df1a81612e4247cb833cc9f1
Author: Julien ?LIE <[email protected]>
Date: 2023-01-31 (Tue, 31 Jan 2023)
Changed paths:
M doc/pod/news.pod
Log Message:
-----------
Fix NEWS for two previous commits
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