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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: auth help (Jeffrey M. Vinocur)
   2. Re: Odd issue with pod2man when building on Fedora build
      server (Julien ?LIE)
   3. Re: auth help (Edwardo Garcia)


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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2014 13:00:25 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Jeffrey M. Vinocur" <[email protected]>
To: Edwardo Garcia <[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: auth help
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
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On Thu, 2 Oct 2014, Edwardo Garcia wrote:

> We are wish to move from domain access to username access, using pop3
> server, or mysql (mail server database) direct.
>
> Is there easy example on this way? We do not restrict groupsa, all
> ogin have full group rights.

Sure, start with readers.conf manpage, the only question will be if you 
can find a direct way to interface INN to your password database (such as 
PAM) or need to write a little wrapper to be in between.


> and can limit parallel login to 10?

This is a bit trickier depending on what you mean.  Ten connections per 
user?


-- 
Jeffrey M. Vinocur
[email protected]


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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 05 Oct 2014 19:53:44 +0200
From: Julien ?LIE <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Odd issue with pod2man when building on Fedora build
        server
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
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Hi Russ,

>>> I suspect this is because INN is setuid.  However, I don't think
>>> there's any reason not to build all of INN with -fPIE -pie if that's
>>> what you want (and likewise with other hardening flags), so I would
>>> just put that into CFLAGS during configure time.
>
>> Isn't there a risk that building with '-fPIE -pie' introduces
>> instability at runtime?  I read at
>> <https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Kevin/DRAFT_When_to_use_PIE_compiler_flags>
>> that some code does not function properly when PIE is used.  Probably
>> code that is position-dependant, but how can we be sure that no part of
>> INN uses that?
>
> My experience is that you'll know if this happens, since the binary will
> exit immediately with a bus error when run.  I build all my packages for
> Debian with PIE by default now, and have only run into one package (GNU
> Backgammon) that didn't work, and I suspect that's because it has some
> assembly for speeding up some parts of the game engine.  If you're writing
> straight C and not doing anything exciting, PIE really should work.

Looking at adding PIE to INN, I see:
 
http://mainisusuallyafunction.blogspot.fr/2012/05/automatic-binary-hardening-with.html
mentioning that PIE can lead to drastic slowdown.  It could therefore be 
problematic for news admins that care a lot about peering fast...

A few projets have added an --enable-gcc-hardening flag to use specific 
hardening flags when building and linking.
Should we do the same for INN, for instance with a --with-hardening 
configure flag?
Then we would enable it by default if gcc (or any compiler that makes 
autoconf set $GCC to "yes") is used, and set relevant hardening flags.

If one does not want to use hardening, he would add the 
--without-hardening flag to configure.  Useful for instance to 
deactivate that when building with clang; it sets $GCC to "yes" but does 
not recognize all the flags (like -pie).

Does it sound the right thing to do to harden INN?

-- 
Julien ?LIE

? Internet restera toujours un joujou pour les universitaires. ?
   (1991)


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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2014 21:32:59 +1000
From: Edwardo Garcia <[email protected]>
To: "Jeffrey M. Vinocur" <[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: auth help
Message-ID:
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PAM? we do not use such a thing on our operating systems even, we use
mysql for all database user accessing

On 10/6/14, Jeffrey M. Vinocur <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Thu, 2 Oct 2014, Edwardo Garcia wrote:
>
>> We are wish to move from domain access to username access, using pop3
>> server, or mysql (mail server database) direct.
>>
>> Is there easy example on this way? We do not restrict groupsa, all
>> ogin have full group rights.
>
> Sure, start with readers.conf manpage, the only question will be if you
> can find a direct way to interface INN to your password database (such as
> PAM) or need to write a little wrapper to be in between.
>
>
>> and can limit parallel login to 10?
>
> This is a bit trickier depending on what you mean.  Ten connections per
> user?
>
>
> --
> Jeffrey M. Vinocur
> [email protected]
>


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