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Today's Topics:

   1. Test Git repository for INN (Russ Allbery)
   2. Re: Test Git repository for INN (The Doctor)
   3. Re: Test Git repository for INN (Russ Allbery)
   4. Re: Test Git repository for INN (Avon)
   5. Re: Test Git repository for INN (The Doctor)
   6. Re: Test Git repository for INN (Bo Lindbergh)


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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 02 Jul 2021 13:04:08 -0700
From: Russ Allbery <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Test Git repository for INN
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Content-Type: text/plain

Hi folks,

It took me a lot longer than I had originally intended, but I have finally
done a test conversion of the INN repository to Git.  It is available on
GitHub at:

    https://github.com/InterNetNews/inn

It will also be mirrored read-only on git.eyrie.org once it's finalized so
that we're not dependent on a single hosting site.

Please take a look and let me know if you see any errors or problems.
I've dropped the old innfeed-0.10.1 tag because I didn't think it was
serving any useful purpose.  Note that this repository was originally CVS
and then was converted to Subversion and then to Git, so there are a few
unavoidable oddities like empty or synthetic commits in the older commits
and branches.

I haven't done any of the content cleanup that we'll probably want to do,
so this should be a straight conversion of the current Subversion
repository.  Once we finalize the conversion, we can do things like add
.gitignore, drop $Id$ strings (Git doesn't support them), and so forth.

I haven't converted the Trac issues yet since that's a bit more of a
one-shot deal.  I'll do that once we're happy with the Git conversion.

To recap the previous conversation, the plan is to change the canonical
development repository to Git and to move the Trac issues to GitHub
issues, and then retire my Trac installation and Subversion hosting, which
reduces some of my load and also reduces INN's bus factor.  PRs will then
be welcome, but of course people can continue to send issues and patches
here.

GitHub was chosen because it's (a) free (as in price), (b) widely
understood and used already, and (c) easy for me to set up.  I know some
folks have reservations about GitHub because it's not free software, and I
understand, but I don't think we're committing heavily to their platform
(everyone who has a clone of the Git repository has all the important data
and can move it elsewhere), and other things like GitLab are only open
core anyway.  Hosting everything on 100% free software (depending on the
choice of free software) loses us some useful features (I plan to set up
GitHub Actions for CI) and requires more resources that I don't really
have to spend on it.  That said, everyone is certainly welcome to mirror
the Git repository elsewhere if they want.

-- 
Russ Allbery ([email protected])             <https://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/>

    Please send questions to the list rather than mailing me directly.
     <https://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/faqs/questions.html> explains why.


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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2021 14:15:19 -0600
From: The Doctor <[email protected]>
To: Russ Allbery <[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Test Git repository for INN
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

On Fri, Jul 02, 2021 at 01:04:08PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
> Hi folks,
> 
> It took me a lot longer than I had originally intended, but I have finally
> done a test conversion of the INN repository to Git.  It is available on
> GitHub at:
> 
>     https://github.com/InterNetNews/inn
> 
> It will also be mirrored read-only on git.eyrie.org once it's finalized so
> that we're not dependent on a single hosting site.
> 
> Please take a look and let me know if you see any errors or problems.
> I've dropped the old innfeed-0.10.1 tag because I didn't think it was
> serving any useful purpose.  Note that this repository was originally CVS
> and then was converted to Subversion and then to Git, so there are a few
> unavoidable oddities like empty or synthetic commits in the older commits
> and branches.
> 
> I haven't done any of the content cleanup that we'll probably want to do,
> so this should be a straight conversion of the current Subversion
> repository.  Once we finalize the conversion, we can do things like add
> .gitignore, drop $Id$ strings (Git doesn't support them), and so forth.
> 
> I haven't converted the Trac issues yet since that's a bit more of a
> one-shot deal.  I'll do that once we're happy with the Git conversion.
> 
> To recap the previous conversation, the plan is to change the canonical
> development repository to Git and to move the Trac issues to GitHub
> issues, and then retire my Trac installation and Subversion hosting, which
> reduces some of my load and also reduces INN's bus factor.  PRs will then
> be welcome, but of course people can continue to send issues and patches
> here.
> 
> GitHub was chosen because it's (a) free (as in price), (b) widely
> understood and used already, and (c) easy for me to set up.  I know some
> folks have reservations about GitHub because it's not free software, and I
> understand, but I don't think we're committing heavily to their platform
> (everyone who has a clone of the Git repository has all the important data
> and can move it elsewhere), and other things like GitLab are only open
> core anyway.  Hosting everything on 100% free software (depending on the
> choice of free software) loses us some useful features (I plan to set up
> GitHub Actions for CI) and requires more resources that I don't really
> have to spend on it.  That said, everyone is certainly welcome to mirror
> the Git repository elsewhere if they want.
>

So I can copy the latest snap?

> -- 
> Russ Allbery ([email protected])             <https://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/>
> 
>     Please send questions to the list rather than mailing me directly.
>      <https://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/faqs/questions.html> explains why.
> _______________________________________________
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Yahweh, Queen & country!Never Satan President Republic!Beware AntiChrist rising!
Look at Psalms 14 and 53 on Atheism https://www.empire.kred/ROOTNK?t=94a1f39b  
Muscle, brain, will... all must be exercised if they will be strong.  -unknown 
Beware https://mindspring.com


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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 02 Jul 2021 13:26:50 -0700
From: Russ Allbery <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Test Git repository for INN
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Content-Type: text/plain

The Doctor <[email protected]> writes:

> So I can copy the latest snap?

Snapshots are still generated from Subversion right now.  The Git
repository is available via git clone or through a few other download
methods built into GitHub.  Once we've finalized the conversion I'll
switch snapshot generation over to using Git.  (The file names of the
snapshots will probably change to make it easier to not generate a new
snapshot if nothing has changed.)

-- 
Russ Allbery ([email protected])             <https://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/>

    Please send questions to the list rather than mailing me directly.
     <https://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/faqs/questions.html> explains why.


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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 3 Jul 2021 08:33:19 +1200
From: Avon <[email protected]>
To: Russ Allbery <[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Test Git repository for INN
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

That?s a lot of hard work, time and effort you have spent on things Russ. Thank 
you :-) 

I support the move and your reasoning. 

Best, Paul. 

Sent from an iPhone shaped device 

> On 3/07/2021, at 8:05 AM, Russ Allbery <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> ?Hi folks,
> 
> It took me a lot longer than I had originally intended, but I have finally
> done a test conversion of the INN repository to Git.  It is available on
> GitHub at:
> 
>    https://github.com/InterNetNews/inn
> 
> It will also be mirrored read-only on git.eyrie.org once it's finalized so
> that we're not dependent on a single hosting site.
> 
> Please take a look and let me know if you see any errors or problems.
> I've dropped the old innfeed-0.10.1 tag because I didn't think it was
> serving any useful purpose.  Note that this repository was originally CVS
> and then was converted to Subversion and then to Git, so there are a few
> unavoidable oddities like empty or synthetic commits in the older commits
> and branches.
> 
> I haven't done any of the content cleanup that we'll probably want to do,
> so this should be a straight conversion of the current Subversion
> repository.  Once we finalize the conversion, we can do things like add
> .gitignore, drop $Id$ strings (Git doesn't support them), and so forth.
> 
> I haven't converted the Trac issues yet since that's a bit more of a
> one-shot deal.  I'll do that once we're happy with the Git conversion.
> 
> To recap the previous conversation, the plan is to change the canonical
> development repository to Git and to move the Trac issues to GitHub
> issues, and then retire my Trac installation and Subversion hosting, which
> reduces some of my load and also reduces INN's bus factor.  PRs will then
> be welcome, but of course people can continue to send issues and patches
> here.
> 
> GitHub was chosen because it's (a) free (as in price), (b) widely
> understood and used already, and (c) easy for me to set up.  I know some
> folks have reservations about GitHub because it's not free software, and I
> understand, but I don't think we're committing heavily to their platform
> (everyone who has a clone of the Git repository has all the important data
> and can move it elsewhere), and other things like GitLab are only open
> core anyway.  Hosting everything on 100% free software (depending on the
> choice of free software) loses us some useful features (I plan to set up
> GitHub Actions for CI) and requires more resources that I don't really
> have to spend on it.  That said, everyone is certainly welcome to mirror
> the Git repository elsewhere if they want.
> 
> -- 
> Russ Allbery ([email protected])             <https://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/>
> 
>    Please send questions to the list rather than mailing me directly.
>     <https://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/faqs/questions.html> explains why.
> _______________________________________________
> inn-workers mailing list
> [email protected]
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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2021 15:42:10 -0600
From: The Doctor <[email protected]>
To: Russ Allbery <[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Test Git repository for INN
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

On Fri, Jul 02, 2021 at 01:26:50PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
> The Doctor <[email protected]> writes:
> 
> > So I can copy the latest snap?
> 
> Snapshots are still generated from Subversion right now.  The Git
> repository is available via git clone or through a few other download
> methods built into GitHub.  Once we've finalized the conversion I'll
> switch snapshot generation over to using Git.  (The file names of the
> snapshots will probably change to make it easier to not generate a new
> snapshot if nothing has changed.)
>

A date snapshot is helpful.

In the 27 years since using Inn.

On a daily snapshot, we found and
error and was able to correcct it the next day.

> -- 
> Russ Allbery ([email protected])             <https://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/>
> 
>     Please send questions to the list rather than mailing me directly.
>      <https://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/faqs/questions.html> explains why.
> _______________________________________________
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Yahweh, Queen & country!Never Satan President Republic!Beware AntiChrist rising!
Look at Psalms 14 and 53 on Atheism https://www.empire.kred/ROOTNK?t=94a1f39b  
Muscle, brain, will... all must be exercised if they will be strong.  -unknown 
Beware https://mindspring.com


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Message: 6
Date: Sat, 3 Jul 2021 08:18:38 +0200
From: Bo Lindbergh <[email protected]>
To: Russ Allbery <[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Test Git repository for INN
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Content-Type: text/plain;       charset=us-ascii

I can find no obvious problems.  SSH access works fine.

Apparently, I've been in CONTRIBUTORS ever since 2011
(b9789771b5e7a1cef3228e7a9f3dfad41dc13efa).


/Bo Lindbergh



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