Just a reminder that Alexander Downer actually sought James Haire out
after one of his trips to Maluku about two years ago, to ask his
opinion of the situation there.
Personally, I think James is a good example of someone who speaks out
against injustice *and* preaches the gospel.

Sue







On Fri, 29 Aug 2003 10:33:33 +1000, you wrote:

>G'day All,
>
>Pass the bucket!!  I suppose Downer would like it if the only people 
>commenting on political issues were the right wing think tanks who give him 
>his instructions.
>
>The point is, he sees "foreign policy" where the churches can see people 
>suffering.  There is no doubt in my mind that Christians must continue to 
>decry all human suffering, and if that is an inconvenience for politicians, 
>then so be it.
>
>In fact, perhaps Downer's criticism is a sign that the churches are having 
>an effect.
>
>Kind regards,
>Lindsay Brash.
>
>
>At 10:21 AM 29/08/03 +1000, Stephen Webb wrote:
>>from today's editorial in the oz: 
>><http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5744,7094017%255E7583,00.html>http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5744,7094017%255E7583,00.html
>>
>>Religious pulpit is no political bull-pit
>>
>>ALEXANDER Downer has issued a long-overdue jeremiad against church leaders 
>>who seek headlines by spouting forth on political issues about which they 
>>have no expertise. Predictably, some church leaders have accused the 
>>Foreign Minister of trying to silence them. He was doing no such thing. Mr 
>>Downer criticised church leaders who prefer the political limelight to 
>>their pastoral duties, and find it by grandstanding "on issues where the 
>>mind of the church itself is unresolved or not yet engaged". His gripe is 
>>not with church people who address the great issues of our time, but with 
>>those who indulge in partisan politicking, and apply to that activity a 
>>sense of moral certainty that simply does not translate from the spiritual 
>>plane.
>>
>>During the debate over the military campaign to topple Saddam Hussein, 
>>some Christian church leaders seemed more certain about the infamy of the 
>>campaign than they are about the resurrection. The Anglican Primate of 
>>Australia, Peter Carnley, who has declared "you can't be a conservative 
>>and a genuine Christian", could find nothing worse to say about Hussein 
>>than that he is "morally suspect". Mr Downer expressed his amazement at Dr 
>>Carnley's claim after the Bali bombing that Australians were targeted 
>>because of the Howard Government's preparedness to take action against 
>>Iraq. Dr Carnley's remarks were not only inflammatory it has since become 
>>obvious they were also dead wrong.
>>
>>Mr Downer said he found remarks by the outgoing president of the Uniting 
>>Church, James Haire, on the "political depravity" shown by both major 
>>parties over the Tampa boatpeople, "profoundly personally offensive as 
>>well as foolish". Professor Haire, who has a capacity to sound like a 
>>walking anti-globalisation website, was concluding his tenure as he began 
>>it: in his inaugural address in 2000, he referred to capitalism as "an 
>>evil empire". All that Mr Downer asks of religious leaders is that they 
>>"forgo the opportunity to be amateur commentators on all manner of secular 
>>issues on which they inevitably lack expertise, and instead find the spark 
>>of inspiration to give our lives greater moral and spiritual meaning".
>>
>>Amen.
>>The  cartoon is 
>>good  but: 
>><http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/cartoon/>http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/cartoon/
>>
>>(our elenie should get it framed and hung over her desk)
>>
>>
>>
>>--
>>
>>
>>Stephen Webb
>>Media Officer
>>Communications Unit
>>NSW Synod, Uniting Church in Australia
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