Wendie writes 

I am seeing a growing number of emails and letters expressing dissatisfaction and alarm over  the way discussion and decisions are being taken in presbyteries and congregations in relationship to proposal 84 and the assembly processes.  This correspondence indicates poor chairing,  

 

I think that it is actually very difficult to chair this kind of meeting, but NENW seems to be doing fairly well on it.  Don't know about individual congregations. 

 

 alternate voices not being heard, 

 

Yes, and I see a number of reasons for this.  

 

One is that it is scarey to be an alternate voice, probably more so when you're a pro-84 alternate voice than an anti one.  When people are standing up and saying loudly that they are right because they have the Bible and church tradition on their side, it is difficult to counter it in ways that can be heard without being loud and strident, too. It is difficult to create a forum where this can be overcome. In a large group, the intimidation factor is high, but if you are in a small group and you feel that you are the only one who feels like you do, the intimidation factor is probably just as high!  I certainly felt rather intimidated in a group of three that was instructed to talk about how we felt when the other two in the group were male and significantly taller, heavier and louder than me, coming from a very different perspective and refusing to follow the instructions to talk about feelings.  I had being ordained (and therefore theologically educated) and articulate on my side, but still found it heavy going.

 

Another is that the different approaches to Scripture which allow the different conclusions also tend to lead to different methods of operating that don't work well together.  One seems to say "the Bible says x and the church has always done it this way", with a strong emphasis on the authority of the words and the tradition.  The other says "that's not how I understand Scripture - if you take into consideration the context..." and "well, now, if you look at the Reformation period, I think you'll find that the church wasn't doing that at all..." which tends to evoke one of two responses; either a criticism of the subjectivity of the statement or "I don't have any of your fancy education but I know what the Bible says".  The latter is very difficult to argue against when the person you're talking to has no idea about the problems of translation from one language to another and only the vaguest notion that the Bible was originally written in languages other than English.  So these alternative voices need far more time to be heard if they are going to be able to explain why they believe what they believe and that doesn't look like a fair allocation of time.

 

And a third is the deliberate gagging on the grounds that "if we say x, it will upset people, it may destroy their faith" - ignoring the fact that not allowing the other side to be heard will also upset people, but not the vocal ones.

 

  poor wording of proposals that are unclear but not allowed to be clarified,  lack of time to read wording, lack of discussion, rushed meetings,  

 

Yes - we're having a special meeting on 13 Sept to discuss our response to the proposal.  It will be an open meeting for all interested church members followed by a meeting of the presbytery and those who wanted it called (the EMU-sympathetic group) wanted it all to take place between 10 am and 2 pm which they felt would be heaps of time to get everything through.

 

 generally not following the process laid down in the manual for meetings, assumptions that people should already have a mind about the proposals being put forward, 

 

Yes.  And some people are actually trying to be open to hearing God in the process...

 

  some congregational meetings not really representing the total membership as some people avoid the conflict, or do not get notice of the meeting.  This would seem to be at odds with much of the content of the letters from congregations and presbyteries sent to us who criticize the assembly for its processes. Is this a pattern others see or is it not really representative of what is happening? 

 

 I suspect it's worse in some places than others.  But when you try to take things slowly, you leave yourself open to criticism that you're trying to delay making a response....

 

Wendie Wilkie

Associate General Secretary

 

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