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John and all,
 
 > One point the Alliance spokes-person made that is agreeable: the time has past for pastoral initiatives.
 
This is a telling point.
 
The gloves are well and truly off here. If by "pastoral initiatives" the RA means approaches by the president and other leaders of the UCA's councils to seriously address the RA's concerns, then it has clearly demonstrated its unwillingness to listen and to be heard.
 
It has demonstrated this by the intentionally closed nature of its gathering in Sydney.
 
It has demonstrated this by its stated aim of "inviting individuals, congregations and organisations to join the Alliance." (http://www.emu.asn.au/assembly2003/national_summit_response.html)
 
It has demonstrated this by believing that it needs to be "an alliance of individual Christians, congregations and councils who believe they are called to participate in God’s transformation of the Uniting Church". All members of the UCA make this promise at membership. What is so "special" about what the RA is calling for?
 
The RA demonstrably wants to "tell" the UCA what it should be rather than listen and engage with the people and processes that form the UCA. This certainly shows an unwillingness to respond to the pastoral process.
 
Geoff

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