I have formatted this for printing and spring-binding as an A5 booklet, for use in our church; with FULL attribution as detailed by Bill Loader. It's very neat that way. I'll happily share this with others.
Peter > > Any good for the confirmation classes our church will begin in 2 months = > time? Or is there something better we could use for our 16-22 year olds = > and 6 weeks? > > David > > > ----- Original Message -----=20 > From: aleggett=20 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Lindsay Brash=20 > Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 12:03 PM > Subject: Re: Church Membership - Course > > > Greetings all. > I would like to put in a plug for Bill Loader's book: "Dear Kim; This is = > what I believe" as an excellent resource/discussion book for talking = > with interested people about faith and membership of the church. It is = > the best and simplest book explaining Christian faith in a sensible way = > I have read and it is available free from Bill's website. > http://wwwstaff.murdoch.edu.au/~loader/home.html > > Hope this helps. > Allan > ----- Original Message -----=20 > From: Lindsay Brash=20 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 9:57 AM > Subject: RE: Church Membership - Course > > > G'day All, > > Anne Ryan (forget her UC title but she is based in Newcastle) ran a = > course in this part of the world (New England-North West) last year that = > might be compatible with what Terence suggests. > 'A Place to Start' deals with basic issues of Christian history, = > theology and doctrine. I think Anne put it together herself. = > Unfortunately I was unable to attend any of the sessions (5 or 6 I = > think) but got good reports. > > Kind regards, > Lindsay Brash. > > At 08:05 AM 4/03/04 +1100, Terence wrote: > > Hi Tom, > > There is provision for the receiving of members on transfer - it is > regulation 1.1.21 > > It will be necessary to satisfy oneself locally that a person has = > been a > member of another denomination. However there is no hard and fast = > rule on > this although some sort of certificate is usually available. > > Now to the important part. I believe that it is vitally inportant = > that some > sort of orientation / induction process take place prior to making a > decision about accepting the person into membership. In fact I think = > it > would be better to do it even before a formal request is considered = > ie for > people who are thinking about transfering to the UCA. This process = > can be > used to encourage disciplines of the faith but (given the current = > times) to > also work on their understanding of the privileges and limitations = > of the > congregation. Yes I am talking about polity / ethos lessons. > > Perhaps what we need at this time are opportunities all over the = > country for > people to meet and be led in thinking about what kind of the church = > the UCA > is. Why is it that the Assembly believes we can / should have room = > for > individual conscience on important matters? What does that say about = > the > kind of open / respectful / humble community of faith we seek to be? = > This > can provide a great opportunity to bring people together across the > congregation to talk about what they value about the UCA. It can be = > a time > of creating / naming images that can sustain people in the = > fellowship of the > Uniting Church.=20 > > Something like a short series for people being received on transfer = > could be > a marvellous vehicle through which we articulate the vision of what = > it means > to be the UCA. That is certainly what we need at this time - an = > identity > that is not defined by doctrinal purity but more by the quality of = > our > relationship with Jesus Christ and how much we show that character = > in our > relationships with others. > > Just a thought. > > Terence=20 > > > > > ------=_NextPart_000_007C_01C40200.714D1870 > Content-Type: text/html; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> > <HTML><HEAD> > <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = > charset=3Diso-8859-1"> > <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" name=3DGENERATOR> > <STYLE></STYLE> > </HEAD> > <BODY style=3D"COLOR: #000000; FONT-FAMILY: Arial" bgColor=3D#ffffff> > <DIV> > <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Any good for the confirmation classes our church = > will begin in=20 > 2 months time? Or is there something better we could use for our 16-22 = > year olds=20 > and 6 weeks?</FONT></DIV> > <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> > <DIV><FONT size=3D2>David</FONT></DIV> > <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> > <DIV> </DIV></DIV> > <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----=20 > <DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A=20 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] = > href=3D"mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]">aleggett</A> </DIV> > <DIV><B>To:</B> <A [EMAIL PROTECTED] > href=3D"mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]">[EMAIL PROTECTED]</A> = > ; <A=20 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] = > href=3D"mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]">Lindsay=20 > Brash</A> </DIV> > <DIV><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, March 04, 2004 12:03 PM</DIV> > <DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: Church Membership - Course</DIV></DIV> > <DIV><BR></DIV> > <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Greetings all.</FONT></DIV> > <DIV><FONT size=3D2>I would like to put in a plug for Bill Loader's = > book: "Dear=20 > Kim; This is what I believe" as an excellent resource/discussion book = > for=20 > talking with interested people about faith and membership of the church. = > It is=20 > the best and simplest book explaining Christian faith in a sensible way = > I have=20 > read and it is available free from Bill's website.</FONT></DIV> > <DIV><FONT size=3D2><A=20 > href=3D"http://wwwstaff.murdoch.edu.au/~loader/home.html";>http://wwwstaff= > .murdoch.edu.au/~loader/home.html</A></FONT></DIV> > <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> > <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Hope this helps.</FONT></DIV> > <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Allan</FONT></DIV> > <BLOCKQUOTE=20 > style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = > BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> > <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> > <DIV=20 > style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = > black"><B>From:</B>=20 > <A [EMAIL PROTECTED] = > href=3D"mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]">Lindsay=20 > Brash</A> </DIV> > <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A = > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > = > href=3D"mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]">[EMAIL PROTECTED]</A> = > </DIV> > <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, March 04, 2004 = > 9:57=20 > AM</DIV> > <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: Church Membership = > -=20 > Course</DIV> > <DIV><BR></DIV>G'day All,<BR><BR>Anne Ryan (forget her UC title but = > she is=20 > based in Newcastle) ran a course in this part of the world (New = > England-North=20 > West) last year that might be compatible with what Terence = > suggests.<BR><FONT=20 > face=3Darial size=3D2>'A Place to Start' deals with basic issues of = > Christian=20 > history, theology and doctrine. I think Anne put it together=20 > herself. Unfortunately I was unable to attend any of the = > sessions (5 or=20 > 6 I think) but got good reports.<BR><BR></FONT>Kind = > regards,<BR>Lindsay=20 > Brash.<BR><BR>At 08:05 AM 4/03/04 +1100, Terence wrote:<BR> > <BLOCKQUOTE class=3Dcite cite=3D"" type=3D"cite">Hi Tom,<BR><BR>There = > is provision=20 > for the receiving of members on transfer - it is<BR>regulation=20 > 1.1.21<BR><BR>It will be necessary to satisfy oneself locally that a = > person=20 > has been a<BR>member of another denomination. However there is no = > hard and=20 > fast rule on<BR>this although some sort of certificate is usually=20 > available.<BR><BR>Now to the important part. I believe that it is = > vitally=20 > inportant that some<BR>sort of orientation / induction process take = > place=20 > prior to making a<BR>decision about accepting the person into = > membership. In=20 > fact I think it<BR>would be better to do it even before a formal = > request is=20 > considered ie for<BR>people who are thinking about transfering to = > the UCA.=20 > This process can be<BR>used to encourage disciplines of the faith = > but (given=20 > the current times) to<BR>also work on their understanding of the = > privileges=20 > and limitations of the<BR>congregation. Yes I am talking about = > polity /=20 > ethos lessons.<BR><BR>Perhaps what we need at this time are = > opportunities=20 > all over the country for<BR>people to meet and be led in thinking = > about what=20 > kind of the church the UCA<BR>is. Why is it that the Assembly = > believes we=20 > can / should have room for<BR>individual conscience on important = > matters?=20 > What does that say about the<BR>kind of open / respectful / humble = > community=20 > of faith we seek to be? This<BR>can provide a great opportunity to = > bring=20 > people together across the<BR>congregation to talk about what they = > value=20 > about the UCA. It can be a time<BR>of creating / naming images that = > can=20 > sustain people in the fellowship of the<BR>Uniting Church. = > <BR><BR>Something=20 > like a short series for people being received on transfer could = > be<BR>a=20 > marvellous vehicle through which we articulate the vision of what it = > > means<BR>to be the UCA. That is certainly what we need at this time = > - an=20 > identity<BR>that is not defined by doctrinal purity but more by the = > quality=20 > of our<BR>relationship with Jesus Christ and how much we show that = > character=20 > in our<BR>relationships with others.<BR><BR>Just a = > thought.<BR><BR>Terence=20 > </BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE> > <P></P></BODY></HTML> > > ------=_NextPart_000_007C_01C40200.714D1870-- > > ------------------------------------------------------ > - You are subscribed to the mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - To unsubscribe, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put in the message body 'unsubscribe > insights-l' (ell, not one (1)) > See: http://nsw.uca.org.au/insights-l-information.htm > ------------------------------------------------------ > -- Peter R. 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