Hi Tom 
 
As a user of MYOB and I have been for the last 2.5years since I started working for myself as an Architect, I find it weird about the extra cost you describe.
 
I use Acounting Plus because I use the payroll feature's, the intial software cost was around $550 the yearly subscriptions to keep the product updated and compliant with all relevant tax requirements is about $480.
 
I do know that MYOB has just put in place a file activation feature which in their words:

MYOB has developed the company file activation procedure to protect against potential piracy and provide you with the reassurance that you are using an authentic product that can be trusted with your valuable business data. Company file activation is a simple procedure that authenticates you as the registered user of the software. This process will also take you through registering your MYOB software, if it’s not already registered. You can choose to activate your company file either online or via the MYOB automated telephone process also known as IVR. In both cases the activation process should take less than a minute.

Now from further reading of their FAQ's, they say
 
How many company files can I activate?

Small business customers:

If you are a small business customer using MYOB Accounting, MYOB Accounting Plus, MYOB Premier or MYOB AccountEdge you can initially activate up to five company files. An additional pack of five company files will be available for free upon request to MYOB.

MYOB Premier Enterprise customers:

If you are a small business customer using the 2004 release of MYOB Premier Enterprise you can activate up to 20 company files with your initial installation.

My main advice is if you don't need the payroll features then you should look at either the MYOB Business Basics version for $99 or the Acounting version for $264 (prices from the City Software site)

The other option is to just setup different accounts for each of the different congregations within the one file, like different sections of the same company.

cya

Andrew Swenson


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Stuart
Sent: Friday, 6 August 2004 8:37 AM
To: 'insights-l'
Subject: Who to be angry at!

Perhaps I should wait and try to understand this better but I’m not going to.  I’m going to spit it out.

 

In the place where I am one of the ministers all sorts of wonderful things are happening.  It is wonderful to just go along for the ride.  I feel like I’m surrounded by people touched by God (Well I guess that is the way always!).

 

Anyway, one of the things that is happening is that we are finding whole new ways of helping little village worship groups become places of real hope, and life, and faith.

 

One of the components of this is that we have tried to help these groups with the “admin” that is the painful part of the church these days.

 

So, (and it happens to be my uncle who is doing this) one of the members of a larger centre is being the treasurer for a small worship group.  They don’t have the skills for all that sort of stuff and we didn’t want them to be leg roped by administration.

 

Recently we purchased (actually the presbytery purchased) MYOB.  It was my uncle’s hope that he could do all the treasurer tasks he is doing on MYOB.  BUT MYOB has this thing where you have to register, not just the software as a single user, but the company (or in our case the congregation).  That means that for our 6 member congregations they would have to pay $500 each (actually $800 when you include the proprietary church stuff).

 

Now, I don’t like complaining about the “synod office vs out there in the world” divide because it is all too often just avoiding responsibility on the person doing the crowing, but I cannot understand why we have gone head first into an arrangement with MYOB that is clearly inaccessible to the vast majority of congregations out there who might want to use it.

 

Let me put it plainly, I’m crapped off.  There are enough obstacles out there for the church … why do we have to face one more?  The synod screams for the lack of money but the BFP just forces places that don’t have money either to go and spend a $1,000 (if you add training) on to the rest of the cash strapped church.

 

Where is the imagination?  Where is the consultation?  Where is the thinking for out there in the real world of congregational life?

 

Tom

 

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