On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 12:33 PM, Eric J. Ray <Eric.Ray at sun.com> wrote: > > On May 7, 2009, at 9:12 PM, Mike Gerdts wrote: >
>>> The point of this story is that if the Jumpstart installer and >>> net-install miniroot were Open Source this is something that I think the >>> Sysadmin comminity would be interested in working on and contributing >>> too b/c it greatly impacts they're daily jobs. ?It may be a legacy mess, >>> but its a legacy mess we're quite invested in. >> >> Back when code was first being opened, jumpstart, live upgrade, and >> patchadd were the areas I was most interested in seeing open. >> Needless to say I have been disappointed about the way things have >> gone in this area. ?Now that it is pretty clear that new innovation in >> S10 is winding down and S10++ will completely replace these areas, I'm >> less inclined to focus on these legacy areas. ?To a certain degree, >> this means that I have just given up on being able to use OpenSolaris >> to make Solaris better. ?Hopefully this isn't repeated in S10++. I'm in pretty much the same boat. In my case, though, the disappointment is even greater - we've been largely ignored in such fundamental questions as what's worth doing, and what the basic requirements are. (The point being that what we wanted was the existing things made better rather than being replaced - even if the replacements were the best thing since sliced bread then it would still be better to spend a little effort to fix and enhance what was already there, and that would have generated much more community involvement.) >> In order to encourage sysadmins to help make the new technology right >> before it gets entrenched, I've invited sysadmins to join the caiman >> (re-)design discussions that are happening now. >> >> >> http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/sysadmin-discuss/2009-May/002703.html >> > > Thanks, by the way--your contributions are really helpful over there! > > Mike's on the right track. The old code simply won't be opened, for a > variety of reasons, most significantly that it simply doesn't make business > sense to invest resources there. It's time to update the technology, and > fixing the old, in this case, simply didn't make sense. > > Please, join in and provide your input, as Mike is doing! Even if that input is - don't do this, pick up jumpstart and fix that? I have a really big worry here. Most shops have a variety of tools, and are generally looking to reduce the diversity of tools they support. Adding a new tool isn't going to go down well, at all. I can see a thought process going along the lines of: "hm, we gotta drop jumpstart, we aren't allowing anything new, so all our new boxes get installed with kickstart because that works just great for us". -- -Peter Tribble http://www.petertribble.co.uk/ - http://ptribble.blogspot.com/
