Hi!

dick hoogendijk wrote:
> some people complain about SUN. I'm not one of them. I like the OS very
> much and the contaxts I had with sun employees were very good and
> friendly. There is only ONE big issue I have with SUN: their ridiculous
> high prices for using their software in the fullest way.
>
> Basic Service Plan for Solaris 10 : $ 324,- a year!
> Even Microsoft does not make me pay such a high amount EACH YEAR for
> using their software -INCLUDING ALL PATCHES-
>   
Are you sure the total cost for the equivalent support isn't that high 
or higher?

For the desktop OS MS charges as much as $150 I think for the Vista 
'ultimate' just to get the OS.
You can download Solaris 10 for $0.

Patches (windows update) for Windows cost $0, but are you really sure 
they're giving you *ALL* the patches they have? I'll concedethey give 
you all the patches they let you know exist - I'd theorize that these 
are the ones they 'recommend' you install though. For Solaris, all the 
recommended patches are $0 also, though you're right to get patches that 
aren't 'recommended', you need to have a support contract. I beleive the 
thinking there (I'm not sure I agree though) is that you really 
shouldn't be using a non-recommended patch unless you've opened a 
support ticket and the support person recommended that the patch will 
help you.

If you care (and I can't tell if you do) about being able to call or 
email in to get help with problems you come across that no patch has 
fixed for you, then the MS cost is much more the last I looked - 
especially if you pay per incident.
> And this is what bothers me most: as a user of the OS I would like to
> be able to get/download released patches for the OS.
As I siad above, the last time I looked, you can download the 
'recommended' patch clister from Sun without a service contract. That 
may not be *every* patch that exists, but it's darn close, and with time 
most patches eventually make it into the cluster.
>  I do not want a
> service contract or telephone support or whatever. I just would like to
> download -ALL- patches. This seems a normal way for using an OS.
> Surely I'd like to pay for this service. I do pay for MS stuff too. But
> for patches alone an anual fee of $324,- is way too much! Why couldn't
> SUN create a patch-only-support contract for less money. I'm sure lots
> of people using solaris 10 would love it. Or am I wrong here?
>
>   
I don't know exectly why they don't make a patch only support price - 
I'd guess that its' because the recommended cluster is already $0. They 
probably don't think many people would pay for it. Also patches that 
aren't in the recommeded cluster aren't there usually for a reason. 
Possible reasons that I've heard are, the problem is rare, and/or the 
fix, while it fixes the immediate problem, carries risks of breaking 
something else less important, but still not worth breaking if you don't 
have the original problem. These are patches that Sun doesn't recommend 
installing unless you actually have the problem.

That said, I can see how frustrating it would be to actually stumble 
onto one of those problems, and not be able to get the patch (until it 
has been field tested more and actually makes it's way into the 
recommended cluster) at all.

Just my theories....

  -Kyle


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