Sorry for the self-reply, but I need to clarify a statement I made late last 
night.

Jeff Victor wrote:
> Mike Gerdts wrote:
>> On 6/4/07, Jeff Victor <Jeff.Victor at sun.com> wrote:
>>> Wee Yeh Tan wrote:
>>> > I'll be grateful if you can share that.  Patching zones is extremely
>>> > painful due to the downtime you mentioned.
>>>
>>> With S10 U4, Zulu will allow LU of zoned systems and minimize 
>>> downtime to
>>> "reboot time".
>>
>> My understanding this is not the case if using ZFS for zonepaths.
> 
> You are correct.  I was discussing systems that do not use ZFS for boot 
> file systems (global zone or non-global zone).

"You are correct" for Solaris 10 Updates 3 and 4.  Some of the pieces to do 
upgrade a zoned system with LU and ZFS exist in OpenSolaris, but I don't have 
details.

>>> But you can create ABE's - and patch them - even if you aren't 
>>> upgrading.  You could:
>>>
>>> 1) Create an ABE (with zones) - while apps are running on original BE
>>> 2) Patch the ABE (with zones) - while apps are running on original BE
>>> 3) Reboot into the ABE (with zones)
>>> 4) Fallback to the original BE if necessary
>>
>> Is this a S10U4 feature?  How does this work with zfs?
> 
> Upgrading a zone system with LU is planned for U4.  It is not aware of 
> ZFS yet.
> 
>>> This would only be useful if the time to reboot is less than the time 
>>> to patch.
>>>
>>> Does that method sound useful?
>>
>> Only if it offers some material improvement over zulu, which I
>> understand does not support zfs.
> 
> Zulu itself does not modify the installer's awareness of ZFS.  It is, at 
> this point, intended for systems that do not use ZFS as their boot file 
> system (global zone or non-global zones).
> 


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