Another issue in the long term will be different operating system  
revisions and nfs-mounted home directories.   If the user installs  
packages into their home directory for operating system revision X,  
when the user logs into operating system revision Y, will it work?

I think you'll have to keep the package information completely in  
user-space for that to work.  You'll also need a method to indicate  
the target operating system revision and a method to segregate  
packages for one OS revision from another.

I'd envision a GUI tool at the user level that would keep track of  
their own 'personal' packages that track updates, similar to update- 
manager.

That would be very useful in the long term at a user level.

On May 31, 2006, at 12:45 PM, James Falkner wrote:

> Yes, this was brought up by Albert as well.  The deal with this is  
> that
> there is potential for abuse if we fail (or even warn).  For example,
> rogue user A can install a package into ~A which depends on every  
> single
> package in the universe.  From then on, when anyone else on the system
> attempts to pkgrm, it will fail or warn or go interactive saying that
> "User A depends on this, are you sure?"  - same goes for user A who
> depends on a different (non-root) user's package.  The concept of the
> Domain-Path, combined with some semantics, will reduce or eliminate
> the potential for abuse and also not require exhaustive searches
> to see if you're about break something.  Only those users' domains
> who are in your  Domain-Path will be searched for dependencies
> during pkgadd/pkgrm. This means that any other software that might
> depend on your is completely invisible unless you allow it in your
> Domain-Path (also known as a "Friends list" or something of that
> nature).  This also means the root user does not look through the
> entire system upon every invocation of pkgrm.
>
> The way that users will discover broken dependencies is by using
> the existing 'pkgchk' utility whenever they want to see if someone
> broke them.  They can also ask users who they depend on not to
> break them, by adding their domain to the required user's Domain-Path.
>
> -jhf-
>
>
> Mike Kupfer wrote:
>> Making the package tools available to non-root users is very  
>> cool.  Thanks!
>> I'm wondering whether the following scenario might need some  
>> additional
>> support from the tools:
>> 1. user U pkgadd's application App in $HOME.  App depends on library
>>    Lib, which is currently installed at the system level, so the  
>> pkgadd
>>    succeeds.
>> 2. root pkgrm's Lib for some reason
>> 3. user U runs App, which fails with a (somewhat obscure) message  
>> about
>>    a missing .so
>> I suspect that it's not feasible for the pkgrm to detect in step 2  
>> that
>> App depends on Lib.
>> Is there some easy way for user U to determine that (s)he now  
>> needs to
>> install the Lib package in $HOME?
>> mike
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