On Feb 13, 2008 4:12 PM, Philip Brown <ppb at usc.edu> wrote: > Completely bypassing ARC, or any *community* based *process* to determine > what the requirements are, and what the implementation looks like.
They haven't bypassed ARC because there is no requirement yet for them to be involved with it. As far as community based process, you obviously haven't been involved with or following the pkg-discuss list very closely then. I see plenty of community involvement. In fact, IPS is actually one of the very few projects related to Sun's work that has a completely open and public bug tracking system! > Yes, they take "feedback" to some degree, but they have completely bypassed > any kind of proper ARC review of what they are doing. Aagain, they haven't "bypassed ARC review." As far as I'm aware; that isn't required yet. > This is about as anti-community as you can get. > Example: If IPS was led, and written, by non-sun employees, this would not > be happening. That's wild speculation at best. > It doesnt seem like the ARC is ever going to require any kind of ARC review > of IPS for Indiana in any way(or that they have any power to do so). It > seems like a "done deal", that Indiana is going to be using IPS, in whatever > shape and form the IPS team feel like they think is most appropriate. You also appeared to have ignored the promises of the IPS project members then that have explicitly stated that they will be going through this process when the time is appropriate. Honestly, I think the only reason people perceive as bypassing ARC is because, historically, Sun projects were done completely within Sun. Now that IPS is so visible, people are making assumptions and accusations that normally wouldn't hold. > I'm hoping, that this is not the case, and that ARC is going to take a more > active role in the packaging and delivery side of opensolaris now. I don't see when they stopped; though technically, ARC hasn't yet been established for OpenSolaris. ARC technically only exists for Solaris ;) > The question is, is Sun going to encourage that "natural selection" process, > or is Sun going to mandate "do it our way, we know what's best for you"? What Sun does with Solaris is their business. So far it seems you're complaining about Sun's business decisions about Solaris. So far, I haven't seen *anything* that would convince me that *Open*Solaris will have such a decision forced upon it. -- Shawn Walker, Software and Systems Analyst http://binarycrusader.blogspot.com/ "To err is human -- and to blame it on a computer is even more so." - Robert Orben
