On Mar 23, 2010, at 1:58 PM, Alper Yegin wrote:
> - Still you need the DHCP relay to send packets (for transporting EAP
> retransmissions, initiating EAP re-authentication),

I agree that this is still needed, but why is it a problem?

> - Proxy vs. relay confusions continues,

The relay does the extra function of caching the client's authentication status 
, triggering EAP, and relaying EAP packets, sure. That's the point of this 
protocol.   Why is this a problem, when it was not a problem for 
DHCPLEASEQUERY?   Relays that implement DHCPLEASEQUERY reach over into non-DHCP 
protocols just as this proposal does.

> - You need to run EAP authentication twice (unless you want to have close
> coordination between the DHCPv4 and DHCPv6 implementations -- gating one by
> the other, until the latter completes EAP authentication).

The combination of client identifier, which is the same for RFC4361-compliant 
v4 clients and all v6 clients, and circuit ID, which is also the same, since it 
uniquely identifies a particular link, form an identifier which is specific to 
the node running the v4 and v6 clients.   So this does in fact resolve the dual 
stack issue.   This is _why_ we did RFC4361--so that we could tell that a 
DHCPv4 client and a DHCPv6 client were configuring the same node.

Anyway, why are we still arguing about this?   From what I could tell at the 
end of the meeting, unless some new proponent comes forward on this, it's a 
dead issue.   It looks like there's some interest in stepping back ten paces 
and coming up with a requirements document (which obviously would not be DHCP 
specific).    Do you object to that?

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