Hi Brian,

Comments inline.....

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brian E Carpenter [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2012 12:18 PM
> To: Internet Area; [email protected]
> Subject: draft-bonica-v6-multihome
> 
> Hi,
> 
> As far as I understand it without seeing a complete "life cycle" of a
> multihoming failover, this proposal only works because of a three-way
> collaboration between both ISPs concerned and the site. Unless I've
> misunderstood something, that is almost the same as is required to make
> the draft-ietf-v6ops-ipv6-multihoming-without-ipv6nat solution work
> too.
>
> In both cases, something is needed to avoid packets with ISP A's prefix
> being discarded by ISP B's ingress filters. The fact that their
> internal prefix has been translated in one case is beside the point.

Yes! There is significant commonality between 
draft-ietf-v6ops-ipv6-multihoming-without-ipv6nat and 
draft-bonica-v6-multihome. Both drafts set out to satisfy the requirements of 
RFC 3582. In both drafts, a mechanism is required to prevent outbound packets 
from being discarded by ISP uRPF filters. In both drafts, that mechanism 
requires collaboration among the site and its ISPs.

> 
> If that is correct, this common aspect should be in its own draft. Then
> we can see a straight comparison between the two approaches.
> 
> I'd also like to see a detailed goal-by-goal comparison with the goals
> defined in RFC 3582. Back in the MULTI6 WG, that was the approach we
> took in comparing proposed solutions.

I agree that a compare-and-contrast draft would be helpful! Maybe you, a couple 
of the authors of draft-ietf-v6ops-ipv6-multihoming-without-ipv6nat and I could 
collaborate on such a draft. Let's discuss this possibility off line.

> 
> The multihoming-without-ipv6nat draft notes that e2e address
> transparency wasn't listed as a goal in RFC 3582. Having been co-chair
> of that WG, I'm pretty sure that's because we never imagined anyone
> proposing anything else for IPv6. That was obviously a failure of the
> imagination. But apart from that, I don't think it's reasonable to
> sweep it (and the referral problem that derives from it) under the
> carpet. It's a problem faced by essentially every distributed app. So I
> think all proposals for multihoming that affect e2e address
> transparency need to analyse their impact on referrals.

Also agreed. We might also want to reinvigorate your work on referrals.

                                                Ron

> 
> Regards
>    Brian
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