On 4/23/2015 10:39 AM, Templin, Fred L wrote:
...
>>>> I repeat: Probe success tells you only that. Probe loss tells you only 
>>>> that.
...
>> If the probe makes it, it makes it.
>>
>> If the probe "would have failed" on another path, you'll either see that
>> over several probes or not.
> 
> Only if you craft your probes in such a way that they eventually test
> all paths in a multipath arrangement. 

I need to do no such thing.

I only care about what happens as it happens. If the path changes and it
affects loss, then I react to loss. If the path doesn't change and the
loss changes, I react to loss.

There's nothing that requires that any network path "test all paths" in
a multipath system.

,,,
>> If you do, you have what is isomorphic to a
>> lossy link,
> 
> It would actually be much worse than a lossy link, because some
> traffic would receive good service while other traffic would be
> dropped completely.

If the loss starts depending on the contents of the packets, then we'd
need a new mechanism to provide feedback on existing packets as if they
were all probes.

That's clearly out of scope for this doc.

Although I agree that fragmentation should be used *if available* to
avoid this issue, we're clearly talking about when that's not the case
either because of hardware or protocol limitations.

Joe

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