Hi,

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Xuxiaohu [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2016 7:32 PM
> To: Templin, Fred L <[email protected]>; Joe Touch <[email protected]>; 
> Brian E Carpenter <[email protected]>
> Cc: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: [Int-area] Call for adoption of draft-xu-intarea-ip-in-udp-03
> 
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Int-area [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Templin, 
> > Fred L
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2016 12:30 AM
> > To: Joe Touch; Brian E Carpenter
> > Cc: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: [Int-area] Call for adoption of draft-xu-intarea-ip-in-udp-03
> >
> > Brian and Joe are correct - tunnels within tunnels means that fragmentation 
> > and
> > reassembly are inevitable. Wish it weren't so, but that is the reality.
> 
> If so, could you give a concrete example in real network environment where 
> outer fragmentation is widely enabled and works very
> well? It would be better if the reassembly buffer size needed in the tunnel 
> egress could be given as well.

Any tunnel that traverses a 1280 link has to fragment, but instead of outer 
fragmentation
 it should use tunnel fragmentation which is something I have been advocating 
for a very
long time. The tunnel egress should configure at least a 2KB reassembly buffer 
size.

Thanks - Fred
[email protected]

> Best regards,
> Xiaohu
> 
> > Thanks - Fred
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Int-area [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Joe
> > > Touch
> > > Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2016 8:34 AM
> > > To: Brian E Carpenter <[email protected]>
> > > Cc: [email protected]
> > > Subject: Re: [Int-area] Call for adoption of
> > > draft-xu-intarea-ip-in-udp-03
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 5/30/2016 1:45 PM, Brian E Carpenter wrote:
> > > > If you intend to support recursive datagram tunneling and believe
> > > > that any path has a minimum MTU, then you have to accept reassembly.
> > >
> > > Agreed- at least one of the layers between the message tunnel and when
> > > it recurses must support fragmentation and reassembly.
> > >
> > > Those who deploy or sell systems otherwise are in denial, not a
> > > counter-proof. Again, this is where compliance validation would be useful.
> > >
> > > Joe
> > >
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