On 6/20/2016 7:52 AM, Templin, Fred L wrote:
> Hi Joe,
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Joe Touch [mailto:[email protected]]
>> Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 2:47 PM
>> To: Templin, Fred L <[email protected]>; Vincent Roca 
>> <[email protected]>
>> Cc: [email protected]; [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: [Int-area] Comments for draft-ietf-intarea-tunnels-02
>>
>> ...
>> (yes, I'd be even happier if all networks periodically tested the
>> minimum MTU as part of operations monitoring)
> The problem is that the ingress is not the source of the original packets;
> it is only the source of the tunneled packets. And, the ingress may need
> to encapsulate packets coming from many original sources that may have
> many different flow label and/or TOS values. Therefore, there is no way
> for the ingress to ensure that any probes it sends will travel over the
> same paths that ordinary data packets will travel due to multipath.

For the benefit of others, Fred and I have discussed this before.

My position is that a network path is determined by network header
reachability.

Fred - your point is correct, but it also means that there is absolutely
no packet that can be used a probe for any other packet unless they are
identical in headers, content, and length. If your network "path" is
susceptible to that, then maybe it really should behave unexpectedly.

Joe

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