On Tue, Oct 17, 2017 at 6:42 PM, Xuxiaohu <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I just submitted a revision 
> (https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-xu-intarea-ip-in-udp-05). Any 
> further comments and suggestions are welcome.
>
> BTW, it said in Google's Espresso paper 
> (http://www.google.com.hk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=4&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwib0cntgfnWAhVHso8KHWF2BmQQFghAMAM&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cs.princeton.edu%2Fcourses%2Farchive%2Ffall17%2Fcos561%2Fpapers%2Fespresso17.pdf&usg=AOvVaw2SgiqQ-ahnvRnEN_QYlxrZ)
>  that "...We use a range of addresses for the encap IP header for sufficient 
> hashing entropy as switches in the aggregation layer cannot look beyond the 
> outer IP header for hashing..." Note that IP-in-GRE and MPLS-in-GRE 
> encapsulations are currently used for incoming and outgoing traffic in 
> Google's Espresso respectively according to the above paper. I believe that 
> IP-in-UDP (https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-xu-intarea-ip-in-udp-05) and 
> MPLS-in-UDP [RFC7510] should be better choices than IP-in-GRE and MPLS-in-GRE 
> respectively once the former could be supported by major chip and network 
> vendors. Fortunately, MPLS-in-UDP has already been supported by major chip 
> and network vendors since its corresponding IETF standard was published. I 
> believe the same thing would happen on IP-in-UDP :)
>
There is also GRE-in-UDP RFC8086. However, the best choice is to hash
over three tuple (src addr, dst addr, flow label) for IPv6-- no
encapsulation overhead, works with any transport layer protocol, no
need for DPI. IMO that's the support that chip and network vendors
should be targeting.

Tom

> Best regards,
> Xiaohu
>
>> -----邮件原件-----
>> 发件人: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
>> 发送时间: 2017年10月18日 9:06
>> 收件人: Hamid Assarpour; Yiu Lee; Xuxiaohu; Fan Yongbing; Yiu Lee; Yongbing
>> Fan; Shaowen Ma
>> 主题: New Version Notification for draft-xu-intarea-ip-in-udp-05.txt
>>
>>
>> A new version of I-D, draft-xu-intarea-ip-in-udp-05.txt has been successfully
>> submitted by Xiaohu Xu and posted to the IETF repository.
>>
>> Name:         draft-xu-intarea-ip-in-udp
>> Revision:     05
>> Title:                Encapsulating IP in UDP
>> Document date:        2017-10-17
>> Group:                Individual Submission
>> Pages:                11
>> URL:
>> https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-xu-intarea-ip-in-udp-05.txt
>> Status:         https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-xu-intarea-ip-in-udp/
>> Htmlized:       https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-xu-intarea-ip-in-udp-05
>> Htmlized:
>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-xu-intarea-ip-in-udp-05
>> Diff:           
>> https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-xu-intarea-ip-in-udp-05
>>
>> Abstract:
>>    Existing IP-in-IP encapsulation technologies are not adequate for
>>    efficient load balancing of IP-in-IP traffic across IP networks.
>>    This document specifies additional IP-in-IP encapsulation technology,
>>    referred to as IP-in-UDP (User Datagram Protocol), which can
>>    facilitate the load balancing of IP-in-IP traffic across IP networks.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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