On 28/07/2018 08:28, Ole Troan wrote:
> 
> 
>> On 27 Jul 2018, at 22:12, Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpen...@gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Fragmentation, (PL)PMTUD, extension headers, and innovative
>> L4 protocols are very possibly not viable on the open Internet.
>> At least, we can't assume that they will work on arbitrary paths.
>> Sad but apparently true.
> 
> Hasn’t this been discussed ad infinitum in the ossification work?
> If you want to generalize, nothing is guaranteed to work across an arbitrary 
> path in the Internet. 
> 
> So what? This is part of a tussle and it would be making a self fulfilling 
> prophecy for us to take all policy based filtering or other brokenness into 
> consideration when designing protocols. 

So you'd prefer that we design protocols that can't possibly work?

Yes, it's a tussle. But sometimes it's better to know you're in a
fight; it gives you a better chance of winning ;-). Anyway, we're
off topic, sorry, my fault.

   Brian

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