Hi, Stewart,

What does "LI" stand for?
ISL is not mature enough for real adoption.
The academia research suggested to use laser instead of microwave. When laser 
is used for ISL, there should not have spectrum license issue, I don't see the 
ITU or USA has spectrum allocation for the frequency of laser (400THz~700THz).

Lin

From: Stewart Bryant <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, July 8, 2021 7:19 AM
To: Hesham ElBakoury <[email protected]>
Cc: Stewart Bryant <[email protected]>; Lin Han <[email protected]>; 
[email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; UTTARO, JAMES 
<[email protected]>; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Int-area] New Version Notification for 
draft-lhan-problems-requirements-satellite-net-00.txt

The thing that worries me about iSL is whether the inability to do LI will 
prohibit licensing in some countries.

- Stewart




On 7 Jul 2021, at 03:51, Hesham ElBakoury 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

Mark Handley published the paper "Using ground relays for low-latency wide-area 
routing in megaconstellations" to show that even if we do not have ISL we can 
use ground terminals to route traffic with better latency than fiber links.

Thanks
Hesham


On Tue, Jul 6, 2021, 10:08 AM Lin Han 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Hi, Jim

I don't have clear answer.
What I can guess now is that most of current technologies (with enhancement) 
can be used, but some new technologies might be needed to solve the satellite 
specific issues, such as fast mobility, frequent topology changes, constraints 
in satellite power, security in open space, etc.
It is up to the community to decide what new technologies and what new 
protocols will be developed.

Regards

Lin


-----Original Message-----
From: UTTARO, JAMES <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Sent: Tuesday, July 6, 2021 7:20 AM
To: Lin Han <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>; 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>; 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>; [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: RE: New Version Notification for 
draft-lhan-problems-requirements-satellite-net-00.txt

Lin,

        Are you suggesting that the current set of protocols can be used with 
or without enhancements or is the uniqueness of the satellite network require 
new protocol(s) to address the architecture you have laid out..

Thanks,
        Jim Uttaro

-----Original Message-----
From: Idr <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> On Behalf Of Lin 
Han
Sent: Saturday, July 03, 2021 8:41 PM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>; 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>; [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: [Idr] FW: New Version Notification for 
draft-lhan-problems-requirements-satellite-net-00.txt

Hi,

This draft analyzed the problems and requirements for the satellite network 
when it is integrated with Internet by current routing technologies.
It may be relevant and interesting to internet, BGP, IGP. The further solution 
proposals may also come from different groups including research initiative 
SARAH.

Look forwarding to discussion and comments.

Thanks

Lin

-----Original Message-----
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<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Sent: Saturday, July 3, 2021 5:07 PM
To: Lin Han <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>; Richard Li 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Subject: New Version Notification for 
draft-lhan-problems-requirements-satellite-net-00.txt


A new version of I-D, draft-lhan-problems-requirements-satellite-net-00.txt
has been successfully submitted by Lin Han and posted to the IETF repository.

Name:           draft-lhan-problems-requirements-satellite-net
Revision:       00
Title:          Problems and Requirements of Satellite Constellation for 
Internet
Document date:  2021-07-03
Group:          Individual Submission
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Abstract:
   This document presents the detailed analysis about the problems and
   requirements of satellite constellation used for Internet.  It starts
   from the satellite orbit basics, coverage calculation, then it
   estimates the time constraints for the communications between
   satellite and ground-station, also between satellites.  How to use
   satellite constellation for Internet is discussed in details
   including the satellite relay and satellite networking.  The problems
   and requirements of using traditional network technology for
   satellite network integrating with Internet are finally outlined.




The IETF Secretariat


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