Bill, et al,

Re:
"The interface name MUST be represented in the UTF-8 charset [RFC3629] using the 
Default Language [RFC2277]."

draft-carpenter-6man-zone-ui is wending its way in 6man, and it's been suggested that we 
should clarify the allowed character set for RFC4007 zone identifiers, which are in 
practice interface names. At the moment, RFC4007 simply says they are "strings" 
without signficant qualification.

For example, "Ethernet1/1-George.sjc" would be a completely legal zone identifier under 
RFC4007. As has also been observed, so would "blåbærsyltetøy0/0/0".

Opinions welcome, here or on 6man. Consistency of the two drafts seems 
desirable.

Regards
   Brian Carpenter

On 25-Apr-24 12:16, Bill Fenner wrote:
Hi all,

I've updated the node ID ICMP extension draft that I presented in intarea in 
Brisbane.  The motivation for this work is that we got a request from a 
customer to append the hostname to the interface name field in the RFC5837 
response, e.g.,

2  10.2.2.3 <INC:99,10.10.2.3,"Ethernet1/1-George.sjc",mtu=1500> 11.322 ms

and I thought it was more productive to create a standard way to encode the 
hostname in the message itself.

The change from the -00 document is that on a suggestion from Reji Thomas, I've 
made the packet format a strict subset of that in RFC5837.  Since this data is 
intended for presentation to users, this is useful since one doesn't have to 
write a whole new TLV parser; one can reuse the one that already exists for 
RFC5837 and just change the user-visible output.

Sample hop output from traceroute with this additional info printed as "NODE":

2  10.2.2.3 
<INC:99,10.10.2.3,"Ethernet1/1",mtu=1500;NODE:2001:db8::137f,"George.sjc"> 
11.322 ms

This represents an RFC5837 "incoming interface" info record with ifIndex 99, 
incoming address 10.10.2.3, etc., and a node ID IP address 2001:db8::137f.  In this 
example the IPv4 addresses are private, but the node ID IP address can be a global IPv6 
address.

The IANA has assigned Class-Num 5 to this document.

Your feedback on this idea is most welcome.

Name:     draft-fenner-intarea-extended-icmp-hostid
Revision: 01
Title:    Extending ICMP for Node Identification
Date:     2024-04-23
Group:    Individual Submission
Pages:    9
URL: https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-fenner-intarea-extended-icmp-hostid-01.txt 
<https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-fenner-intarea-extended-icmp-hostid-01.txt>
Status: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-fenner-intarea-extended-icmp-hostid/ 
<https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-fenner-intarea-extended-icmp-hostid/>
HTML: 
https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-fenner-intarea-extended-icmp-hostid-01.html 
<https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-fenner-intarea-extended-icmp-hostid-01.html>
HTMLized: 
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-fenner-intarea-extended-icmp-hostid 
<https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-fenner-intarea-extended-icmp-hostid>
Diff: 
https://author-tools.ietf.org/iddiff?url2=draft-fenner-intarea-extended-icmp-hostid-01
 
<https://author-tools.ietf.org/iddiff?url2=draft-fenner-intarea-extended-icmp-hostid-01>

Abstract:

    RFC5837 describes a mechanism for Extending ICMP for Interface and
    Next-Hop Identification, which allows providing additional
    information in an ICMP error that helps identify interfaces
    participating in the path.  This is especially useful in environments
    where each interface may not have a unique IP address to respond to,
    e.g., a traceroute.

    This document introduces a similar ICMP extension for Node
    Identification.  It allows providing a unique IP address and/or a
    textual name for the node, in the case where each node may not have a
    unique IP address (e.g., the IPv6 nexthop deployment case described
    in draft-chroboczek-intarea-v4-via-v6).

Thanks,
   Bill


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