Is there an architectural document and/or problem statement for Parcels?
Is there running code, and is it deployed anywhere?

On Wed, Dec 20, 2023 at 8:29 AM Templin (US), Fred L <Fred.L.Templin=
[email protected]> wrote:

> The question is not necessarily one of hardware vs. software; but it is
> one of end-to-end vs. the middle.
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> *From:* Int-area <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Robinson,
> Herbie
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 19, 2023 3:49 PM
> *To:* Templin (US), Fred L <[email protected]>;
> Paul Vixie <[email protected]>; Tom Herbert <[email protected]>;
> Christian Huitema <[email protected]>
> *Cc:* Gorry (erg) <[email protected]>; int-area <[email protected]>
> *Subject:* Re: [Int-area] Re: Jumbo frame side meeting at IETF118 - notes
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> At some point, it becomes ridiculous to keep band-aiding 40+ year old
> hardware designs with ever increasing software complexity.  The hard thing
> to know is when you hit that tipping point.
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> *From:* Templin (US), Fred L <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 19, 2023 4:44 PM
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> *Cc:* Gorry (erg) <[email protected]>; int-area <[email protected]>
> *Subject:* RE: [Int-area] [EXTERNAL] Re: Jumbo frame side meeting at
> IETF118 - notes
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> Herbie, an alternative to trying to force advanced integrity checks into
> hardware is for the
>
> source to include a higher fidelity integrity check along with the jumbo,
> then the destination
>
> gets to verify the integrity after the jumbo has traversed the path. That
> way, there is still
>
> good integrity coverage even if all links in the path are still only using
> CRC32.
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> Fred
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> *From:* Int-area <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Robinson,
> Herbie
> *Sent:* Monday, December 18, 2023 5:31 PM
> *To:* Paul Vixie <[email protected]>; Tom Herbert <
> [email protected]>; Christian Huitema <
> [email protected]>
> *Cc:* Gorry (erg) <[email protected]>; int-area <[email protected]>
> *Subject:* Re: [Int-area] [EXTERNAL] Re: Jumbo frame side meeting at
> IETF118 - notes
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> If we are going much beyond 9K, the hardware has to change, because a 32
> bit CRC doesn’t cut it for really large packets.
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> If the hardware has to change, we can push MTU negotiation into the
> hardware.  And completely bypass the momentum involved with getting every
> existing implementation on the planet to actually implement PTB.
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