James Kempf wrote:

Pekka,

I agree with Joe and Tony. Tunnels are a tool for virtualizing the address
space. If you are going to propose that they are a flawed tool, then I think
Tunnels are used for more than just this. And, it's not the tool that it flawed per se, Pekka is suggesting that perhaps there is something else that is flawed hence we need to apply the tool of Tunneling. We should look for that "something else."

- Mark

you need to propose an alternative that has "better" (for some sense of the
word)  properties. The only alternative I can think of (swapping IP
addresses in the header, i.e. NAT) is worse,  but maybe there are other
alternative


           jak



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