Hi Spencer, Will give you the few times I have left from the schedule I leave Friday a.m. early and could speak with them as CTO, IPv6 Forum as we are connecting on that front with them but not directly yet.
thx /jim > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Spencer Dawkins > Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 7:40 PM > To: Internet Area > Cc: IAB; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [Int-area] Architectural reasons why > tunnellingisanindicationof a failure > > Hi, Jim, > > My boss (Yi Zhao) is here at the IETF, and he's on the IPSphere Board > of Directors, so I asked him tonight if they are planning to do > "standards", and he said the Board of Directors hasn't > discussed plans > to do so. > > If you'd like to talk with him for more details, please let me know. > We are at the IETF until Saturday morning. > > Best wishes, > > Spencer Dawkins > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bound, Jim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "James Kempf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Joe Touch" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Pekka Nikander" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: "Internet Area" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "IAB" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 5:08 PM > Subject: RE: [Int-area] Architectural reasons why tunnelling > isanindicationof a failure > > > Folks, > > If you don't know talk about tunnels you might want to check out this > new forum called IPsphere who want to promote VPN services over the > Internet and are rumored to be wanting to build "standards". I am > tracking out of defense as industry SME for other forum than IETF, not > HP day job work. Virtualization is going to happen and it should not > always imply tunnels either and does not for networks. > > http://www.ipsphereforum.org/home > > /jim > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Kempf > > Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 10:58 AM > > To: Joe Touch; Pekka Nikander > > Cc: IAB; Internet Area > > Subject: Re: [Int-area] Architectural reasons why tunnelling > > is anindicationof a failure > > > > Pekka, > > > > I agree with Joe and Tony. Tunnels are a tool for > > virtualizing the address > > space. If you are going to propose that they are a flawed > > tool, then I think > > you need to propose an alternative that has "better" (for > > some sense of the > > word) properties. The only alternative I can think of (swapping IP > > addresses in the header, i.e. NAT) is worse, but maybe there > > are other > > alternatives. > > > > jak > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Int-area mailing list > > [email protected] > > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/int-area > > > > _______________________________________________ > Int-area mailing list > [email protected] > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/int-area > > > > _______________________________________________ > Int-area mailing list > [email protected] > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/int-area > _______________________________________________ Int-area mailing list [email protected] https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/int-area
