Bernard is making very valid point here if this is to be available to the IETF then it should be available to the entire IETF community. I cannot see any ground for another view?
/jim > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bernard Aboba > Sent: Sunday, October 09, 2005 2:04 PM > To: Romascanu, Dan (Dan) > Cc: Wijnen, Bert (Bert); [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [Int-area] Access to 802.16 Archives > > > Maybe future versions of > > > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-iab-ieee-802-rel-01. > txt should > > make amend the current text. > > Since the IETF has no notion of membership, either within WGs > or the IETF > at large, attempts to determine the "legitimacy" of WG > members is resting > on thin ice. The IETF/IEEE 802 relationship document > deliberately make it > clear that access is to be provided to anyone in order to > establish this > as a fundamental principle of the IETF/IEEE 802 relationship. > I think > that principle is worth fighting for. > > How is a WG chair to know whether someone is a "legitimate > pariticipant" > or not? The IETF does not require meeting attendance. An > individual can > submit comments on an IETF document without even being a > member of the WG > or IETF mailing lists (I do this all the time). > > I'd note that some of the same issues have come up in IEEE 802. > The Chair of IEEE 802.1 (Tony Jeffree) has stated that since > IEEE 802 WGs > are required to accept ballot comments from anyone regardless > of voting > status or IEEE membership, he considers anyone with an > interest in IEEE > 802.1 documents to be eligible for document access. > > Overall, there's an important principle at stake here. The IETF > requires that documents under discussion be publicly available. To > enable open review of IEEE 802 work in progress, we've made > it clear to > IEEE 802 that IETF WG chairs will provide archive access to > anyone who asks. > We've written this into the IETF/IEEE 802 relationship > document , and asked for IEEE 802 ExComm review, in order to > make sure > that this important IETF principle is accepted by IEEE 802. > > _______________________________________________ > Int-area mailing list > [email protected] > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/int-area > _______________________________________________ Int-area mailing list [email protected] https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/int-area
