> -----Original Message-----
> From: Wojciech Dec (wdec) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 5:37 AM
> To: Dave Thaler; Alper Yegin; Internet Area
> Cc: Dhc Chairs
> Subject: RE: [Int-area] DSL forum liaison statement on
> subscriberauthentication
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Dave Thaler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: 15 August 2007 23:24
> > To: Alper Yegin; Internet Area
> > Cc: Dhc Chairs
> > Subject: RE: [Int-area] DSL forum liaison statement on
> > subscriberauthentication
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Alper Yegin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2007 1:31 PM
> > > To: Dave Thaler; 'Internet Area'
> > > Cc: 'Dhc Chairs'
> > > Subject: RE: [Int-area] DSL forum liaison statement on
> > > subscriberauthentication
> > >
> > [...]
> > > > > > 2) Is the problem about authenticating access to the
> > local link,
> > or
> > > > > > about authenticating access to the network behind the L3
edge
> > > > device?
> > > > >
> > > > > I think it is both.
> > > >
> > > > If it is both, and the link is capable of carrying non-IP
traffic
> > (like
> > > > Ethernet is), then a L3 solution would be particularly
> > inappropriate.
> > >
> > > WT-146 provided by DSLF is all about "IP sessions." So, I presume
> > non-IP
> > > traffic is out of scope.
> > [...]
> >
> > Yes I think that's a fundamental problem.  They're not
> > considering the larger issues, and as a result some are
> > asking for a poor solution.
> 
> While theretically other protocols may be possible, practically DSL
> service operators support only IP traffic for residential users, and a
> majority of business L3 services too. As such the solution requested
for
> this space is precisely for that, no more, no less.

I think there is some confusion here, perhaps on my part (which is why I
was asking the questions).  

Since we agree that there can be two machines of the same subscriber on
the same link, in at least one of the models supported by WT-146 and
IPAuth-18, what _prevents_ those two machines from using a protocol
other than IP?

And since we agree that there can be two subscribers on the same shared
link, in at least one of the models supported by WT-146 and IPAuth-18,
what _prevents_ those two subscribers from using a protocol other than
IP?

-Dave 


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