Ralph Droms wrote:
Section 6.3 of draft-pruss-dhcp-auth-dsl-01 addresses how to fit the EAP info into DHCP options, using RFC 3396.

However, there is also a recommendation, when using EAP, that the server set the "Maximum DHCP Message Size" option to 1604. Sending a DHCP message of this size may require fragmentation, but DHCP relay agents cannot forward fragmented DHCP messages.

Yes. See also below regarding RADIUS vs DHCP


- Ralph

On Oct 24, 2007, at Oct 24, 2007,4:36 PM, Richard Pruss wrote:



Stig Venaas wrote, around 24/10/07 7:23 PM:
It's not as simple as just putting credentials into option 82 though.
For one thing there are strict limits on the size of DHCP messages that
will limit what EAP or other mechanisms you can use. When the EAP
MTU is too small for the EAP message, you need multiple requests and
responses to transport the message. This is not possible without
major DHCP changes. Hence you are not free to use what EAP mechanisms
or credentials you like without major changes to DHCP. While with say
PANA you could do that.

Stig section 6.3 of the currently posted -01 draft addresses the size issue of EAP in some detail, it is not clear if you are saying the proposed mechanism would not work.

Regardless of the mechanism if one thinks of this from the implementation it should be no big deal as for EAP and RADIUS one has to chop EAP into small enough chunks to get through limitations in RADIUS (<253 bytes). While DHCP has similar problems (<255 bytes), and one could can expect that most networking companies would have implemented the lower common denominator of RADIUS here.

When doing EAP with RADIUS you can transport large EAP messages by
fragmenting the EAP message and doing a series of requests and responses
fetching the fragments one by one. How would you do this with DHCP? With
RADIUS you can do e.g. EAP-TLS with EAP messages that are several
Kbytes large. I don't see how to do that with DHCP. Of course there are
other EAP mechanisms with much smaller messages that might be
sufficient.

Stig


Regards,
Ric




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