On Oct 29, 2007, at 12:16 AM, Stig Venaas wrote:

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At Ralph's request, I've gone back and read the archives for this discussion. Much learned and useful argument has been presented, including Stig's most recent objection, which is certainly a good valid technical objection.

However, what I have *not* noticed, which I find kind of stunning, is anybody from the "let's do it" side of the argument answering Iljitsch's very cogent and telling objection here:

http://www1.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/int-area/current/msg01014.html

This objection is a showstopper. If it can't be answered, there is no chance that this protocol can ever be deployed. All the technical and procedural objections that have been discussed here are irrelevant if this one objection can't be answered.

So I think that before any further discussion on the merits of the wire protocol go forward, perhaps it would behoove this learned body to actually address Iljitsch's objection. I must confess that I have not read every message in the archive, because there are a remarkable lot of them, so if someone can point me at the place where Iljitsch's objection was shown to be unnecessary, I would consider it a great favor.



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