Ohhh yeah what do you mean with reference drivers? Like a driver made
for another brand like the similar Toshiba notebook?

On 28 sep, 20:55, tribaljet <[email protected]> wrote:
> It's a nice combo, good cpu, ok gpu, good amount of ram for todays
> common usage, I'm guessing it's ddr3-1066, right? Overall, it seems
> like a good purchase. Now you just need to check and see if you can
> install reference drivers, as it seems like sony still blocks some
> laptops with ati solutions, not so much with nvidia, have no idea why.
> If you can sell your wind at a good price, you'll have done a very
> nice deal :)
>
> On Sep 28, 4:54 pm, MSI WIND <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Ok guys, I've just bought a Sony Vaio, i5 430m, HD 5650 and 4GB RAM
> > for €550,-. It's used but looks brand new and I just installed a clean
> > windows 7 Ultimate (32 bit)... I couldn't find anything with a good
> > GeForce card within that price range either :( Haven't tried any games
> > jet but I'm about to.. Thanks for all the help guys!! Now I still have
> > to sell my WIND
>
> > On 25 sep, 18:47, tribaljet <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > Read a few reviews, you'll see that any SLI config scales better than
> > > any Crossfire config. I'm talking about almost 90% more performance,
> > > while the typical Crossfire config gives you 50-60% at best.
>
> > > On Sep 25, 8:48 am, Namige <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > Hmm 2x GTS 450 sounds nice. wonder if these cards scale well?
>
> > > > I've read that 5750 CrossfireX scales excellently and compares to the
> > > > 5850 or even the 5870 :O
>
> > > > On Sep 24, 11:08 pm, tribaljet <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > Or you can grab a pair of 
> > > > > those:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121393
>
> > > > > On Sep 24, 10:56 pm, uncleferassi <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > Beast medium range 
> > > > > > cardhttp://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161330
>
> > > > > > On Sep 24, 2:22 pm, Namige <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > Guys whats the best card/ dual card for $250?
>
> > > > > > > On Sep 23, 1:38 am, Espionage724 <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > Idk exactly what the speeds are lol, it's a 2GB SD card though.
>
> > > > > > > > On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 8:29 PM, tribaljet 
> > > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Hey, be glad, you have that rare wildcard 
> > > > > > > > > pokemoEWETYN%RWEV... I meant
> > > > > > > > > hdd!
> > > > > > > > > Readyboost doesn't change the wei score. You already said 
> > > > > > > > > before, but
> > > > > > > > > can you remind me the speed and size of your flash device?
>
> > > > > > > > > On Sep 23, 1:16 am, Espionage724 <[email protected]> 
> > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >> I'm somewhat thinking my HDD score is affected by ready 
> > > > > > > > >> boost,
> > > > > > > > >> although idk. Unless my HDD just likes getting random boosts 
> > > > > > > > >> of power
> > > > > > > > >> :p
>
> > > > > > > > >> On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 5:50 PM, tribaljet 
> > > > > > > > >> <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >> > I say this because unless you have a 10k rpm sas hdd 
> > > > > > > > >> > somehow plugged
> > > > > > > > >> > on that thing, it's impossible. I've seen some very 
> > > > > > > > >> > impressive non ssd
> > > > > > > > >> > hdds that only ranked 5.9. It's curious how the wei score 
> > > > > > > > >> > of vista is
> > > > > > > > >> > different than 7, and I'm not talking about the increased 
> > > > > > > > >> > max of 7.
>
> > > > > > > > >> > On Sep 22, 10:47 pm, Espionage724 <[email protected]> 
> > > > > > > > >> > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >> >> lol maybe, although it makes me feel better when it's in 
> > > > > > > > >> >> the 7's :p
>
> > > > > > > > >> >> On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 4:38 PM, tribaljet 
> > > > > > > > >> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >> >> > Something's not right, wei shouldn't bounce like that, 
> > > > > > > > >> >> > specially if
> > > > > > > > >> >> > there's no change in drivers or hardware... Voodoo 
> > > > > > > > >> >> > magic?
>
> > > > > > > > >> >> > On Sep 22, 9:36 pm, Espionage724 
> > > > > > > > >> >> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >> >> >> lol, idk if it's wei though or my hardawre, but 
> > > > > > > > >> >> >> sometimes my HDD score
> > > > > > > > >> >> >> will be like 7.2 (and I got 7.9 one time on it), but 
> > > > > > > > >> >> >> then it will be
> > > > > > > > >> >> >> like 5.9 or 5.2 lol same drivers and everything
>
> > > > > > > > >> >> >> I got a 6.2 in WEI under vmware though which is a bit 
> > > > > > > > >> >> >> strange lol
>
> > > > > > > > >> >> >> On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 4:31 PM, tribaljet 
> > > > > > > > >> >> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > Yup, all 17" owners complain of the same thing, and 
> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > that's why for
> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > that size, a backpack is much more useful.
>
> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > i3 can have (not all though) HT, which helps to some 
> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > extent but on
> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > others it actually decreases performance, which is a 
> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > very common
> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > mistake nowadays.
>
> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > Well, my 2005 core duo still has 4.8 for the cpu 
> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > score, so it could be
> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > worse. Graphics is what really kills the score, as 
> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > if it wasn't for
> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > graphics, my wei score would be 4.8, because of the 
> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > cpu :)
>
> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > On Sep 22, 9:29 pm, MSI WIND 
> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >> >> >> >> haha yeah but I need to use the laptop for 
> > > > > > > > >> >> >> >> schoolwork to.. so 15" is
> > > > > > > > >> >> >> >> carryable, don't want to brake my back on my way to 
> > > > > > > > >> >> >> >> school
>
> > > > > > > > >> >> >> >> On 22 sep, 22:25, tribaljet <[email protected]> 
> > > > > > > > >> >> >> >> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > >> >> >> >> > About 17" laptops, they were originally built for 
> > > > > > > > >> >> >> >> > work scenarios, not
> > > > > > > > >> >> >> >> > gaming. Meaning that if you get a weak 17" 
> > > > > > > > >> >> >> >> > laptop, you will regret it
> > > > > > > > >> >> >> >> > a lot. Usually it's best to buy a better equipped 
> > > > > > > > >> >> >> >> > 15" laptop. If I
> > > > > > > > >> >> >> >> > have the money, I'll get a proper 17 or 18" 
> > > > > > > > >> >> >> >> > laptop, but that's if I
> > > > > > > > >> >> >> >> > had such money, which is a lot and would allow me 
> > > > > > > > >> >> >> >> > to buy 2 or 3
> > > > > > > > >> >> >> >> > smaller laptops :'(
>
> > > > > > > > >> >> >> >> > On Sep 22, 9:22 pm, MSI WIND 
> > > > > > > > >> >> >> >> > <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > >> >> >> >> > > Yeah that's my understanding to it even rapes 
> > > > > > > > >> >> >> >> > > 9600 GT, but from what
> > > > > > > > >> >> >> >> > > I'm understanding Nvidia has much beter 
> > > > > > > > >> >> >> >> > > features and games run better
> > > > > > > > >> >> >> >> > > on Nvidia hardware. But the i3 processor is to 
> > > > > > > > >> >> >> >> > > weak for nowadays
> > > > > > > > >> >> >> >> > > gaming, in combination with this ATI? Also I 
> > > > > > > > >> >> >> >> > > have to get a 15" see
> > > > > > > > >> >> >> >> > > some good 17" systems coming by :(
>
> > > > > > > > >> >> >> >> > > On 22 sep, 22:13, Espionage724 
> > > > > > > > >> >> >> >> > > <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > >> >> >> >> > > > ATI Mobility Radeon HD 
> > > > > > > > >> >> >> >> > > > 5165http://www.notebookcheck.net/ATI-Mobility-Radeon-HD-5165.24579.0.html
>
> > > > > > > > >> >> >> >> > > > NVIDIA GeForce 9500M 
> > > > > > > > >> >> >> >> > > > GShttp://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-9500M-GS.8167.0.html
>
> > > > > > > > >> >> >> >> > > > Unless theres something I'm missing here, the 
> > > > > > > > >> >> >> >> > > > 5165 rapes the 9500M GS?
> > > > > > > > >> >> >> >> > > > Maybe not total rape, but it's better in 
> > > > > > > > >> >> >> >> > > > almost everything?
>
> > > > > > > > >> >> >> >> > > > On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 4:04 PM, Espionage724 
> > > > > > > > >> >> >> >> > > > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >> >> >> >> > > > > I'd probably just go with the Toshiba but I 
> > > > > > > > >> >> >> >> > > > > don't know much about
> > > > > > > > >> >> >> >> > > > > recent Intel CPU's (i heard i3 is pretty 
> > > > > > > > >> >> >> >> > > > > low-end?) But if I saw those
> > > > > > > > >> >> >> >> > > > > specs and someone asked me to choose I'd go 
> > > > > > > > >> >> >> >> > > > > with ATI graphics + i3.
> > > > > > > > >> >> >> >> > > > > I'd have to look into the specs of both of 
> > > > > > > > >> >> >> >> > > > > em.
>
> > > > > > > > >> >> >> >> > > > > And when I said Intel before I mean't the 
> > > > > > > > >> >> >> >> > > > > CPU.
>
> > > > > > > > >> >> >> >> > > > > And np for the help, I actually wasn't too 
> > > > > > > > >> >> >> >> > > > > sure about the numbering on
> > > > > > > > >> >> >> >> > > > > ati graphics (I thought higher numbers was 
> > > > > > > > >> >> >> >> > > > > instantly better lol) so i
> > > > > > > > >> >> >> >> > > > > learned something :)
>
> > > > > > > > >> >> >> >> > > > > On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 3:57 PM, MSI WIND 
> > > > > > > > >> >> >> >> > > > > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >> >> >> >> > > > >> Ok but what your actually saying is you 
> > > > > > > > >> >> >> >> > > > >> can better buy a worse (ranked
> > > > > > > > >> >> >> >> > > > >> at notebookcheck) Nvidia card than a 
> > > > > > > > >> >> >> >> > > > >> better (ranked at notebookcheck)
> > > > > > > > >> >> >> >> > > > >> ATI card. I don't get the Intel part, 
> > > > > > > > >> >> >> >> > > > >> still talking about graphics
> > > > > > > > >> >> >> >> > > > >> card?
>
> > > > > > > > >> >> >> >> > > > >> But when it comes to Nvidia the 9600 GT is 
> > > > > > > > >> >> >> >> > > > >> the best I can get, I've
> > > > > > > > >> >> >> >> > > > >> searched for better ones but couldn't find 
> > > > > > > > >> >> >> >> > > > >> them within my budget. And
> > > > > > > > >> >> >> >> > > > >> when I see this ATI 5165 HD's performance 
> > > > > > > > >> >> >> >> > > > >> (at notebookcheck)in
> > > > > > > > >> >> >> >> > > > >> comparison with the best GeForce I can get 
> > > > > > > > >> >> >> >> > > > >> that's a big difference.
> > > > > > > > >> >> >> >> > > > >> But still games run better on Nvidia 
> > > > > > > > >> >> >> >> > > > >> hardware so can't really measure
> > > > > > > > >> >> >> >> > > > >> the difference true numbers... But fore 
> > > > > > > > >> >> >> >> > > > >> example, which one should you
> > > > > > > > >> >> >> >> > > > >> choose:
>
> > > > > > > > >> >> >> >> > > > >> Toshiba satelite l500 1zp (€425,- Used)
> > > > > > > > >> >> >> >> > > > >> Processor: Intel® Core™ i3-330M (2,13GHz) 
> > > > > > > > >> >> >> >> > > > >> - RAM: 4GB DDR3 1,066 MHz -
> > > > > > > > >> >> >> >> > > > >> Graphics card: ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5165 
> > > > > > > > >> >> >> >> > > > >> (1GB)
>
> > > > > > > > >> >> >> >> > > > >> Asus M51SN-AP018C (€400,- , Used)
> > > > > > > > >> >> >> >> > > > >> Processor - Type: Intel Core 2 
> > > > > > > > >> >> >> >> > > > >> Duo-processor T9300 (2,5Ghz), RAM: 3
> > > > > > > > >> >> >> >> > > > >> GB, Type graphic-card: GeForce 9500m GS 
> > > > > > > > >> >> >> >> > > > >> (512mb)
>
> > > > > > > > >> >> >> >> > > > >> What would you pick to play latest games 
> > > > > > > > >> >> >> >> > > > >> on? Get best performance on
> > > > > > > > >> >> >> >> > > > >> games?! Maybe you would pick the Toshiba, 
> > > > > > > > >> >> >> >> > > > >> would you still pick it if
> > > > > > > > >> >> >> >> > > > >> the Asus had a 9600 GT instead of a 9500 
> > > > > > > > >> >> >> >> > > > >> GS?
>
> > > > > > > > >> >> >> >> > > > >> Thanks btw for helping me, it's just hard 
> > > > > > > > >> >> >> >> > > > >> getting a understand about
> > > > > > > > >> >> >> >> > > > >> all of this. Imagine you even thought 5165 
> > > > > > > > >> >> >> >> > > > >> was a different card...?!!!
> > > > > > > > >> >> >> >> > > > >> It's just weird- Tekst uit oorspronkelijk 
> > > > > > > > >> >> >> >> > > > >> bericht niet weergeven -
>
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