Same thing mentioned in 1993? Like to investigate this more...
Date: 1/15/03 1:06:10 AM Pacific Standard Time
Here is a real operating unit still need a percentage of fuel to keep the
carbon around the rings. That's why you have to run a car in for a few
thousand miles. Without the carbon the engine will not last . That's the
only reason the system in the previous file will fail. The fuel this unit
generates is not hydrogen oxygen; it's nitrogen hydroxide, nitrogen hydrogen
and oxygen combined. If you look the motor is a 253 v8 with a lawn mower
carby 1 inch bore.
The electrolysis of water (H20 = H2 + 1/2O2) an the formation of Nitrous
Oxide (1/2N2 + 1/2O2) are also endothermic reactions with a heat of
formation of 242 kJ and 90 kJ respectively. In theory it ought to be
possible to recycle all of the Nitrogen and water from the exhaust making it
a closed system, but Dingle for some reason has to refill the reactor from
an on-board water tank.
Where does the energy come from to power the vehicle? I believe the energy
comes from ambient heat in the space surrounding the engine. The temperature
differential between the inside and the outside of the engine compartment
would be insufficient to accelerate a car to 200km/h. I believe that the
cooling system is functioning as a heat pump supplying thermal energy to the
engine and that the power of the engine depends on the rate that heat is
pumped into it as well as the difference in the temperature between the
outside and inside of the engine compartment. This would make it analogous
to the Stirling engine which uses an external heat source to expand a fixed
masss of gas in it's cylinders. Unlike the Stirling engine the Dingle Engine
is not a Carnot cycle engine and is therefore much more efficient. It can
alsos extract energy from low temperature sources. This hypothesis is
supported by the fact that there are reports that water cars with aluminium
engine blocks function better tahtn cars with iron engine blocks. If this
hypothesis is true then I would expect water cars to be more successful in
hot countries and this is confirmed by the fact that there are said to be
many water cars in Australia.
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From: "Jerry Decker - KN" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2006 1:50 AM
Subject: [Keelynet] nitrogen hydroxide to power home generator and V8 engine
Interesting claim of a self-running emergency power generator and a V8
engine, both running from gas manufactured in the self-generating systems
(gen photos at http://www.keelynet.com );
01/29/06 - Claim of Home Power System
Here are a couple of generator systems for a house power supply. They run
on straight nitrogen-hydroxide generated from water. (Air is 78%
nitrogen. - JWD)
The same system on the v8 car. The generator has been running as the main
supply of electricity to a house for over ten years to the best of my
knowledge. Well there are no power lines where this unit is.
I myself drive an old f100 Canadian engine. It's a 360 cubic inch six
cylinder. I have run it on the fuel system for over four years, so far
with no known ill effect except on my fuel bill round town I get about 140
miles per gallon. On a good run a lot more, but I stopped checking the
mileage years ago. Because I know I cannot produce them without getting
But there are lots of them privately built in Australia; they are quite
common. Even the guy that does my road-worthy certificate has one [we have
to have are cars checked every year here for any mechanical faults before
we can reregister the vehicle]. They are not legal but the guy doing the
check has one on his car as well. So registration not really an issue.
01/29/06 - A 235 V8 engine with nitrogen hydroxide cell
The system is fairly basic: It uses 316 grade stainless steel - a 100mm
pipe anode and 80mm pipe for the cathode, placed inside the other. The end
caps are made from perspex and sealed with rubber o-rings.
The centre pipe is negatively charged, the outer positive. The setup uses
the existing carby, and in this case it has been substituted with one from
a briggs and stratton lawn mower. This injects a small amount of fuel to
help maintain a seal on the piston rings, and prevent corrosion.
It seems that having a vacuum within the gas chamber is what makes these
devices so successful. Not only does it speed up the breakdown of water,
it is said that with the combination of the vacuum + hydrogen + oxygen +
atmospheric nitrogen, nitrogen hydroxide is created within the cell.
I don't know much about chemistry, so I dont know what else to say about
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