Same thing mentioned in 1993?  Like to investigate this more...
Ken C.
Date: 1/15/03 1:06:10 AM Pacific Standard Time

hi kent

Here is a real operating unit still need a percentage of fuel to keep the carbon around the rings. That's why you have to run a car in for a few thousand miles. Without the carbon the engine will not last . That's the only reason the system in the previous file will fail. The fuel this unit generates is not hydrogen oxygen; it's nitrogen hydroxide, nitrogen hydrogen and oxygen combined. If you look the motor is a 253 v8 with a lawn mower carby 1 inch bore.


The electrolysis of water (H20 = H2 + 1/2O2) an the formation of Nitrous Oxide (1/2N2 + 1/2O2) are also endothermic reactions with a heat of formation of 242 kJ and 90 kJ respectively. In theory it ought to be possible to recycle all of the Nitrogen and water from the exhaust making it a closed system, but Dingle for some reason has to refill the reactor from an on-board water tank.

Where does the energy come from to power the vehicle? I believe the energy comes from ambient heat in the space surrounding the engine. The temperature differential between the inside and the outside of the engine compartment would be insufficient to accelerate a car to 200km/h. I believe that the cooling system is functioning as a heat pump supplying thermal energy to the engine and that the power of the engine depends on the rate that heat is pumped into it as well as the difference in the temperature between the outside and inside of the engine compartment. This would make it analogous to the Stirling engine which uses an external heat source to expand a fixed masss of gas in it's cylinders. Unlike the Stirling engine the Dingle Engine is not a Carnot cycle engine and is therefore much more efficient. It can alsos extract energy from low temperature sources. This hypothesis is supported by the fact that there are reports that water cars with aluminium engine blocks function better tahtn cars with iron engine blocks. If this hypothesis is true then I would expect water cars to be more successful in hot countries and this is confirmed by the fact that there are said to be many water cars in Australia.


----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry Decker - KN" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2006 1:50 AM
Subject: [Keelynet] nitrogen hydroxide to power home generator and V8 engine

Hola Folks!

Interesting claim of a self-running emergency power generator and a V8 engine, both running from gas manufactured in the self-generating systems (gen photos at );

01/29/06 - Claim of Home Power System

Here are a couple of generator systems for a house power supply. They run on straight nitrogen-hydroxide generated from water. (Air is 78% nitrogen. - JWD)

The same system on the v8 car. The generator has been running as the main supply of electricity to a house for over ten years to the best of my knowledge. Well there are no power lines where this unit is.

I myself drive an old f100 Canadian engine. It's a 360 cubic inch six cylinder. I have run it on the fuel system for over four years, so far with no known ill effect except on my fuel bill round town I get about 140 miles per gallon. On a good run a lot more, but I stopped checking the mileage years ago. Because I know I cannot produce them without getting unwelcome visitors.

But there are lots of them privately built in Australia; they are quite common. Even the guy that does my road-worthy certificate has one [we have to have are cars checked every year here for any mechanical faults before we can reregister the vehicle]. They are not legal but the guy doing the check has one on his car as well. So registration not really an issue.

01/29/06 - A 235 V8 engine with nitrogen hydroxide cell

The system is fairly basic: It uses 316 grade stainless steel - a 100mm pipe anode and 80mm pipe for the cathode, placed inside the other. The end caps are made from perspex and sealed with rubber o-rings.

The centre pipe is negatively charged, the outer positive. The setup uses the existing carby, and in this case it has been substituted with one from a briggs and stratton lawn mower. This injects a small amount of fuel to help maintain a seal on the piston rings, and prevent corrosion.

It seems that having a vacuum within the gas chamber is what makes these devices so successful. Not only does it speed up the breakdown of water, it is said that with the combination of the vacuum + hydrogen + oxygen + atmospheric nitrogen, nitrogen hydroxide is created within the cell.

I don't know much about chemistry, so I dont know what else to say about this.
              Jerry Decker -
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