As you probably know, many of us have been on Carl Tilley for years now
trying to get him to have his claimed 1:3 overunity device tested
independently (not by his own people issuing their own reports).
Carl and his group have resisted this suggestion and a couple of his
investors have even written nasty emails saying leave him alone, that
they don't require any proof and believe whatever he says.
Carl is a nice enough guy and seemed sincere as you can tell in the many
posts scattered throughout KeelyNet.
All the information we have gathered has long been posted at;
The state of Tennessee had confiscated his equipment and has had it
taken apart and tested to find his claims are simply not supported with
facts. In other words, none of it works as claimed.
I find it interesting that he rigged the electrical gauges in the car to
give false realtime readings to fool the people taking that data as
Learning from this, it is a great pointer for anyone testing such
devices, to USE YOUR OWN TEST EQUIPMENT.
05/18/06 - Carl Tilley Update - Independent investigation questions
In 2003, he told Channel 4 that his car, his ATV and even his boat never
need gas, and they don't need to be charged. Tilley convinced investors
to give him $400,000, implying a big pay-off was close.
"We do have one offer right now to buy, sight unseen, all the
technology, for two billion," claimed Tilley in 2003. Since our first
series of stories, the TBI raided the Tilley compound and confiscated
his electric inventions.
The state then hired Dr. Saeed Foroudastan, an MTSU civil and mechanical
engineer, to do an analysis of the Tilley Black Box and Electric
Vehicle. Dr. Foroudastan had high hopes that Tilley was onto something
big, but was disappointed when he started doing research on the technology.
He tested the DeLorean that Tilley said could make it to California. But
during the test, the vehicle ended up not being able to make it out of
town and ended up traveling only 18 miles.
Dr. Foroudastan tested Tilley's the magic box and it died after just 64
minutes. He concluded Tilley's invention "borders on science fiction"
and that his claim is "intentionally fraudulent or grossly misguided."
In September, Tilley was sentenced to two years probation for the sale
of unregistered securities. Fuller hoped Tilley would get a tougher
sentence, but he could not get a fraud conviction.
No investors would testify against Tilley. "During our handling of this
case, we never found a single investor who was willing to come into
court and say they had been defrauded," said Brian Fuller, Assistant
District Attorney. Fuller speculates they are either embarrassed or
still hoping their investment will pay off.
05/18/06 - Results of the States' Test of the Tilley Spinner
(Courtesy of Dan York. - JWD) Carl B. Tilley claimed to have designed
and produced an apparatus the output of which would be three times
greater than its input. The study below analyzes this claim and tests
It is believed that the claims of Mr. Tilley are intentionally
fraudulent or grossly misguided.
"During the inspection of the components in the black box, the
alternator (fig. 5) was inspected and compared to a standard alternator
(fig. 4). The internal energizing coil had been removed and replaced
with a permanent ring magnet, eliminating the requirement of an
energizing current to the coil.
Although slightly increasing the alternators efficiency, the
modification limits the alternators ability to regulate voltage-the
advantage of an alternator over a generator.
This particular modification is not unique to the Tilley black box.
Permanent magnet (PM) alternators by Hornet Power Systems can be
(See attached printout accessed at
There is no possibility that the Tilley black box performs in a manner
consistent with Tilleys claims of a three-to-one ratio of output to input.
In addition, the wiring of the gauges in the car to read an approximate
three-to-one ratio of output to input regardless of the operational
status of the charger is indicative of additional lack of understanding.
Jerry Decker - http://www.keelynet.com
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