Perhaps another solution: - Either someone can develop a script that can do it and repackage it so the a team can get their source from an internal team member, in which case Qt-Project may be (if it gets accepted) packages that tool; thus only one person has to have PERL installed.
- (If necessary) purchase a commercial license from Digia and talk to them about having those special releases for their releases commercial customers, that is part of why you buy a commercial license. Don't know what Lars or Thiago thinks about the above, but that would seem (to me) to be the best solutions available. $0.02 Ben >________________________________ > From: Thiago Macieira <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] >Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 3:35 PM >Subject: Re: [Interest] Oops! Somebody's got a bad case of dependency bloat! > >On quarta-feira, 10 de abril de 2013 14.19.58, Michael Jackson wrote: >> <rant> >> Hey Thiago, >> Nothing personal here but leave your *personal* feelings out of the >> development environment. Yes we all have our favorites and we all have ones >> we don't like but at least *respect* the idea that Qt is developed on ALL >> of them and that EQUAL attention should be given to all the platforms. I >> suggest you fire up a Windows machine, make yourself a "normal" user, don't >> give yourself access to anywhere OTHER than your home directory and bring >> up a development system. You will then see why some of us complain about >> having to jump through hoops that NEVER should have been in there to begin >> with. Oh yeah, and they don't have access to places like gitorious or >> bitbucket because their firewalls stop it cold.</rant> > >Hi Mike > >I respect your opinion and I understand your concerns. After reading some of >the replies, I begin to understand some of the challenges. Especially the one >about the licensing of ActivePerl. > >But note what I said is not exactly a personal feeling. It's the conclusion of >a software professional with 7 years of experience doing cross-platform >development. And this professional's opinion is that Windows is *not* a >welcoming operating system for developing, not when standard tools that we >take for granted on other OS are missing. > >No, we tolerate Windows and put up with its quirks. You can say that >"tolerate" and "put up with" are personal opinions. A more professional way of >saying it would be: Windows remains a very important operating system for us, >but due to limited manpower available, there's only so much we can do to >support the extreme differences between it and all the other OS (they're all >UNIX). We'd rather spend the manpower in higher-priority tasks. > >I also call into question giving a developer such a locked down system. If an >employee needs a given tool to accomplish a job, give it to them. Don't make >the employee work around the issue and waste their time. > >What you said about Gitorious and other Git repositories reminds me of a >developer who needed that for his *job* and their IT people would not / could >not provide a solution. Why should the Qt Project create workarounds? Who's >going to pay for the sysadmin time spent on setting up the solution, >monitoring it, and for the static IP assigned to that one use? Give the >employees the tools and means that they need to accomplish their jobs >effectively. IT is there to help, not hinder. > >> Is it possible to have an alternate set of source downloads that have this >> step already performed. Keep in off the main page if you want to and just >> post to the list where they are located so that we are the only ones >> downloading these "bloated" versions. I do not care how small the download >> is if I can not compile Qt it does not help. > >Anyone can do that. We'll be happy to link to them, just as we probably will >for the MinGW packages built by third-parties. > >Will you trust those sources, since they are *clearly* modified? >-- >Thiago Macieira - thiago.macieira (AT) intel.com > Software Architect - Intel Open Source Technology Center > >_______________________________________________ >Interest mailing list >[email protected] >http://lists.qt-project.org/mailman/listinfo/interest > > > _______________________________________________ Interest mailing list [email protected] http://lists.qt-project.org/mailman/listinfo/interest
