I am amazed InterMapper even runs on my lowly macs with about 1000 devices and loads of links :-)
Manny
Mark Persiko wrote:
Hello-
As a user of InterMapper for 1-2 years, I would like to note that
Windows/Linux versions are a welcome addition to Macintosh, if only that
hardware that can run Windows (and Linux) is cheaper, in general,
than Macintosh hardware (although InterMapper's footprint is such
that it requires *much* less hardware than programs of comparable
functionality!)
From a programming perspective, I could see the dual-platform challenge being to maintain a common feature set and code base between platforms.
Aspects of the Windows and Mac GUI's and inputs are significantly
different.
There are programs that exploit these differences pretty well: Timbuktu Pro by Netopia comes to mind. For mouse input, they are able to translate Command-Clicks on a Macintosh into right-clicks on a PC, and Ctrl-Clicks on a PC into Command-clicks on a Macintosh. They've run into problems with PC and Mac versions that are too far
apart to be truly cross-platform in our experience. On the video
side, both PC's and Macs use similar video hardware now anyway, so
that's not an issue.
It would seem that, for the present, InterMapper for Windows is
running as a GUI on top of a JRE (Java Runtime Environment). Or,
if one uses InterMapper Remote, then a service (or daemon) runs
under Windows (or Linux), and the Remote program gives the same
look and feel regardless of platform. (I might be getting this
wrong, but my test of InterMapper for Windows used jrew.exe in the
background and it consumed 70% of my CPU on a Pentium IV.)
Unfortunately, the Remote and JRE's I've tested are all very CPU
intensive, to the point that I can't use a station running InterMapper
Remote or InterMapper for Windows for much else. Granted, I was
testing it with my full map of 258 devices and lots of links.
So, to me the biggest challenge of cross-platform is overcoming the CPU overhead associated with JRE's. Optivity by Nortel Networks
is completely written in Java, but is running faster (however it has
other anomalies like it can't picture my whole network without missing
some links - InterMapper never has that problem!)
Just my 2 euros. :)
Thanks,
Mark
- Mark C. Persiko, IT Division
- Boulder Valley School District
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-----Original Message-----
From: Manny Gonzalez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 1:40 PM
To: InterMapper Discussion
Subject: Re: Welcome to the real world... too bad
Here we go again! Wow! It never ceases to amaze me. How about a little
respect? A little respect for Rich Brown and his team? They have been
good coders right up to now, they will probably have a good product for windows too.
I am not claiming to love Microsoft, but it clearly is not the fault of Microsoft
that some software just sucks. The OS is fine until bad code gets install on it.
I can tell you there are PLENTY of things that do not work nicely in a
MAC even on OS-X ... At it does crash, and some of the interface stuff is not as
great as some people think and the mouse still has only one button... etc. etc.
So please, let's not go down this road! And guess what? When was the
last time ANYTHING was not done for money? Money makes the world go round.
I love Windows and I like Mac OS-X ... but to make blanket statements
like you are making is simply insulting. You make it sound as if Intermapper has been
bug free, development free since version 001 Alpha :-)
Let's get back to business.... Dartware, I welcome the Windows version
and the Linux version. Good luck and I hope you make TONS OF MONEY doing it. You
deserve it.
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Manny Gonzalez ............................... CCIE# 9013
Sr. Network Analyst ..................... NY Presbyterian
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Konowal, Ed wrote:
I just saw it. InterMapper available for Windows. Recall back in 2000 when you (Bill Fisher, Rich Brown and DartmouthCollege)decided to "spin InterMapper out as a separate company"? My statedconcernat that time was that you'd loose focus on the Mac and divertresources todevelop a Windows version.
I expected it. I HATE it, but I expected it. What's next? Sell the
program to Microsoft? It's all about profit now.
I understand... I'm just so disappointed to actually see the first
steps, ofthis fantastic program, now headed toward mediocrity. A very, very sad day. Ed Konowal Systems Analyst Lee County School District ____________________________________________________________________ Note: To unsubscribe from this mailing list, please send email to: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Thanks!
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