Hi All:

Thanks,Jakob, for the suggestion. Yes, it's a fortress and we
like/need it that way (sensitive data, high bandwidth site, student
environment - you get the idea). We thought of the strategy you
describe but it means opening an inbound port through the tiers so
tier 3 IM can receive the map status from tiers 1 and 2. Inbound
ports are verboten. Inside traffic can get out through outbound ports.

Opening the connection from the inside is fine, except that the data
coming in in response can be spoofed or corrupted. In the IM scenario
this is definitely paranoia running wild (fake IM maps?), but the
design and policy is intended to block ALL unauthorised traffic
(student records, payroll info etc.).


Subject: Re: Monitoring multi-tiered network?
From: "Jakob Peterh�nsel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 22:22:56 +0100

Hi Mike.

Sounds like one hell of a fortress to me, and I think you're locking
yourself down more than needed.
What is it  that keeps you from allowing traffic from the inside to get
through? I can't see the security issue in that one!
As long as the connection is opened from the inside (pier 2 or 3), I
can't see the problems.

I would set it up this way:

Pier 1: IM Daemon/Server, monitoring local pier, allows Remote
connection from known IP[range].
Pier 2: Just like pier 1
Pier 3: Serves local map of pier 3, and one 'global' map with status
for the two others [Probe: Map Status].

Remote can also show Pier 1 & 2 maps, if needed.

Hope it helps.
...

Jakob Peterh�nsel

Cheers! -- -- Mike Dustan, Computing Operations & Tech. Support, Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, BC Canada. Web: http://www.sfu.ca/ots/

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