Here's a wild idea: can you put a couple of extra Ethernet cards in a Mac and connect 
your three Ethernet ports to the three networks?  Since the Mac won't be routing 
packets between the networks, it should be safe.

Alternatively, could you funnel the three networks into three VLANs and have them all 
dump out at a single port?  You could connect your Mac to it and multihome the 
Ethernet port with three IP addresses.  

If this is too much connectivity, perhaps you could talk the powers-that-be into 
allowing a firewall to span the three networks and allow only SNMP traffic to and from 
a specific IP (your InterMapper machine).  

If they don't trust a firewall to keep the networks segregated, then here's my last 
resort suggestion: get three IM servers and hook one up in each tier.  Then run their 
keyboard, video, and monitor outputs into a KVM switch so you can get all three IM 
systems on the same screen.  Most KVM switches I've seen can be set to automatically 
cycle through the various screens, like security cameras.  If distance is a problem, 
check out the Paragon KVM products from Raritan - they can extend KVM signals over 
ordinary CAT5 wiring.  This solution won't let you put devices from different tiers on 
the same map, but at least you can see all three tiers on the same display.

Hope this has been at least thought-provoking!

Doug




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Doug Weathers, Network Administrator
St. Charles Medical Center


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Hi All:

We have a multi-tiered network here, divided into three tiers for 
security purposes. Machines at tier 1 are (relatively) wide open; 
machines at tier 2 cannot be seen AT ALL from tier 1, and tier 2 
machines have very specific one-way port forwarding to see tier 1. 
Tier 3 is similarly buried beneath tier 2. Intermapper running on a 
tier 1 machine can see nothing on tiers 2 or 3. Intermapper on tier 2 
could conceivably SNMP-query tier 1 machines but the responses would 
be blocked.

So far it looks as if each tier will have to have its own standalone 
IM machine. This is okay, except we'd like to be able to monitor them 
all together with IM Remote to avoid a proliferation of screens for 
operators to watch.

The only scheme we've been able to come up with is to find a way for 
tier 2 and 3 IM's to create some form of snapshot file which is then 
pushed up to tier 1 on some kind of regular basis. Ideally this would 
be via UDP through a strictly write-only port (i.e. not even acks 
going back down). If the "snapshot" contained enough information to 
be able to query devices etc. on it (albeit at a  single point in 
time), this might be just what we need.

Anyone have any ideas as to how we could do this more elegantly 
without opening up exploitable ports between tiers?

Thanks for any insights!
-- 
--
Mike Dustan, Computing Operations & Tech. Support,
Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, BC Canada.
Web: http://www.sfu.ca/ots/ 

I'm never wrong. I thought I was wrong once, but I was wrong.

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