That all makes perfect sense, thanks for clearing that up for me!

On 11/30/06 3:00 , "InterMapper Discussion"
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> InterMapper-Talk Digest - Thursday, November 30, 2006
> 
>   Re: [IM-Talk] G4 OS X 10.2 probe
>           by "William W. Fisher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>   Re: [IM-Talk] G4 OS X 10.2 probe
>           by "Tex Clayton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> 
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> Subject: Re: [IM-Talk] G4 OS X 10.2 probe
> From: "William W. Fisher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 07:59:48 -0500
> 
> On Nov 28, 2006, at 6:14 PM, Rich Allen wrote:
> 
>> the round trip time reported on the G4 Xserve probe (OS 10.2) is
>> reported
>> incorrectly. the reported time is 1000 times greater than actual;
>> ie. 767
>> msec is reported for 0.767 msec. verified this using ping from
>> several other
>> boxes/OSs
>> 
>> IM v4.5.1, probe is "Xserve G4 Probe" that was installed with IM
> 
> The RTT of different probes will show deviation because different
> probes measure different aspects of behavior. The ping probe should
> have the smallest RTT; it just tests network connectivity of a single
> packet.  The XServe probe and other probes test network connectivity
> and server responsiveness. (In some cases, there is a little overhead
> within InterMapper itself.)  When InterMapper probes an XServe (non-
> Intel version), it makes a TCP connection to a specific port. Once
> the connection is established, InterMapper issues a request for
> information, then awaits the full response. As the response is
> returned, InterMapper parses out the fields and populates variables
> within the probe.  The RTT of the XServe probe is thus the total time
> it takes from connection establishment until status determination.
> Since IM has to parse the entire response in an Xserve probe, it has
> to download all of the data.
> 
> When the status is determined varies for different probes. For
> example, the status of an HTTP probe is determined when the "string
> to match" is found. To measure the time it takes a web server to
> *start* returning a page, specify  start tag "<html>". To measure the
> time it takes the web server to return the entire page, specify the
> end tag: "</html>". With larger web pages, you'll see different
> response times based on the string to match.
> 
> One of my current issues with RTT alarming in 4.5.x is that the
> default settings don't reflect differences between probes.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Bill Fisher
> Dartware, LLC
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> Subject: Re: [IM-Talk] G4 OS X 10.2 probe
> From: "Tex Clayton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 08:09:05 -0500
> 
> 
> On Nov 28, 2006, at 8:16 PM, Jeff Kell wrote:
> 
>>> On Tue, 28 Nov 2006 14:14 -0900, Rich Allen wrote:
>>> 
>>> We're seeing what appears to be the same behavior with the Barracuda
>>> HTTP probe under InterMapper 4.5.3 and Mac OS X 10.4.8.  Round trip
>>> times for our Barracuda 600 are in the thousands of msec as reported
>>> by the probe, but pings to the Barracuda from a terminal window on
>>> the
>>> InterMapper server are typically < .5 msec round trip.
>>> 
>> Our Barracuda *is* that slow to respond to HTTP.  Try your web
>> browser.
> 
> The round-trip time that you are seeing for the Barracuda probe is
> the time it takes to load the login page, login, and then load and
> parse the status page.
> 
> -Tex Clayton
> Dartware, LLC
> http://www.dartware.com
> 
> 
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