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From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Quezada, Pedro
Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 1:44 PM
To: InterMapper Discussion
Subject: RE: [IM-Talk] What Intermapper can't do


Ed Konowal...see what you started ....
We get these uprising against dartware once in a while....

Just waiting on Rich brown to comment....
RICH ?



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Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 1:38 PM
To: InterMapper Discussion
Subject: Re: [IM-Talk] What Intermapper can't do

I do not think I'd like IM to turn into openview(tm).

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Paul M. Hill
PC² Media Specialties
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On Aug 21, 2009, at 11:37 AM, Jon Myers wrote:

> I might be missing something, but I don't see anything too interesting 
> there.  I'd rather double click on the switch to ssh/ telnet to it 
> like I do now, and make the changes manually.  I really don't like the 
> huge pictures of switches taking up my screen, especially when all 
> that info is readily available in a much smaller form factor.
> We use Intermapper as a MONITORING tool, not a configuration tool.   
> Once Dartware figures out how to properly do the monitoring side, then 
> maybe if they want to jump to the configuring side, then sure...  But 
> theres a long way to go, and in the 5 years we've been with them, only 
> meaningless/minor changes have been made.  The biggest change so far 
> has been plastering a huge "ifAlias not available" on switch ports 
> with no description, rather than allowing it to just remain blank if 
> its blank.  So then I had to write a script to set the description on 
> all unlabeled switch ports to a dot.
>
> If you want dynamically changing icons for various switches, perhaps 
> setting up a script to check the switch, and whack on the database of 
> IM to change the icon might work for you.  Could be built right into a 
> custom probe.  Not quite sure why though.  Of course if the custom 
> probe scripting was a little better, you could see the model number 
> right in the status window.
>
> The BIG thing that intermapper can't do is send meaningful alerts, 
> like "NOC Temperature is 80 degrees", all it can do is report Alert, 
> warning, or OK.  Nor can I even update the label of a temperature 
> device to display the temp without right clicking on it and going to 
> status.  Same applies for APs and seeing number of clients, or any 
> other information.  So thats why we're looking for a replacement for 
> intermapper.
>
> And as for SNMPc, I really don't want to see around 800 devices actual 
> size at the same time to get information at a glance.
>
>
> At 08:50 AM 8/21/2009, you wrote:
>> Intermapper is a great program I've been using for many years. I was 
>> an original Mac user before Dartware migrated to Windows. But, we're 
>> always looking for new tools and better problem identification. 
>> Here's a short video I captured from my workstation (no audio) 
>> showing a product called SNMPc.
>>
>> http://public.leeschools.net/edk/snmpc.wmv
>>
>> The reason I'm posting this to the Intermapper list (with their
>> approval) is to hopefully generate some interest from other users, so 
>> that Dartware moves in this direction. The functionality and graphics 
>> you'll see in SNMPc were created using scripts I wrote in their 
>> limited SNMP scripting language. If Dartware provided similar tools, 
>> this could be even better.
>>
>> Notice that the icons are active representations of the actual gear 
>> deployed.  By just looking at the maps you can tell what hardware you 
>> have installed.  And since it's polling via SNMP, the icon's change 
>> when hardware is changed - no editing necessary.
>>
>> Please comment...
>>
>> Ed Konowal
>> Network Operations Supervisor
>> Lee County School District
>>
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