On Thu, Dec 4, 2025, at 8:05 AM, Nicolas Grekas wrote:
> Le jeu. 6 nov. 2025 à 00:28, Larry Garfield <[email protected]> a écrit :
>> In other news, Ilija and I said a year ago that we'd take a swing at adding 
>> isReadable/isWriteable methods to ReflectionProperty.  Took a while, but 
>> here we are.  A strangely small RFC from us:
>> 
>> https://wiki.php.net/rfc/isreadable-iswriteable
>> 
>
>
> Thanks for this.
> I also think the auto-scope is [NOT] a good idea. You state that 90% of use 
> cases will need this but my experience doesn't back this claim. The 
> only cases where I had to check for read/writeable were out of the 
> local scope, so I'd say 100% of my experience goes against that 90% 
> number ;) Joke aside, it'd be just fine to let ppl be explicit. That's 
> better than "oops I forgot to give the correct scope" bugs.
>
> About magic methods, one unsets a property only to have __get/__set 
> called. Existing code works with this assumption. This means we have to 
> return true IMHO. Magic methods are just generic hooks also. Which 
> means they should behave the same.
>
> Nicolas

Well, the only people who seem to have an opinion don't like "static", so we've 
removed it.  RFC updated.

As for __get/__set, that's so far one vote for ignore (Tim), and one for 
always-true (Nicolas).  Not a consensus. :-)

Nicolas, can you clarify with an example if/how ignore would break things?  

I think once we settle that question and the cooldown passes we're ready for a 
vote, though at this point that means January.

--Larry Garfield

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