I'm talking about the traditional for construct on which the PHP version is based. In PHP, that part of the for construct is somewhat meaningless. I'm saying that it is not as programmatically powerful as it could be. I understand how it currently works (what you have been stating), and I am saying that you should consider a change.

On Saturday, Aug 30, 2003, at 14:53 America/New_York, Derick Rethans wrote:

Off to the kill filter with you now...

My intention is not to bash PHP or its creators, but it is to point out weaknesses.
I have done nothing but give concrete examples. You have given me nothing of importance in return. Prove to me that your zeal is justified, but don't relinquish yourself to the defeat of banning me.


On Saturday, Aug 30, 2003, at 14:54 America/New_York, Rasmus Lerdorf wrote:

That's where you are wrong.

for($i=0; $i<10; $i++)

There is no declaration there at all.  $i=0 is simply an assignment.
Nothing more, nothing less.  Loops and other constructs do not have
separate symbol tables.

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