On Wed, Oct 18, 2023, at 1:12 PM, Robert Landers wrote: > On Wed, Oct 18, 2023 at 2:51 PM someniatko <somenia...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Hi internals, >> >> There is often a need to compare whether two objects are equal. For >> example, a popular [brick/money](https://packagist.org/packages/brick/money) >> library has a `Money` class, which has an `equals()` method. However, this >> becomes tedious to implement such methods, when multiple nested objects are >> involved. For instance, Money has an amount and a currency. >> >> There were already suggestions on the mailing list to allow "overloading" >> existing `==` operator, and some suggestions went even as far as >> overloading `<`, `>=` etc operators. However, overloading existing >> operators may lead to a BC break between the PHP version which does support >> the functionality, and which doesn't. It won't result in a BC break in case >> it's an entirely new syntax, because a library or a project won't be able >> to write code which overloads `==` in say PHP 8.4, but with code which >> still works in PHP 8.3 - it will have to require PHP 8.4+. But if it is >> implemented as a magic method, then `==` will work differently for 8.3 and >> 8.4. >> >> I suggest thinking about introducing a new operator `~=`, which signifies >> that custom equality is requested. In such a case, `==` will work as it >> works now, and by default `~=` will work also like `==`, unless its >> behavior is overwritten via a magic method. If a magic method is not >> present in a class being compared, `~=` will compare two objects field by >> field, but using `~=` comparison rather than `==` comparison, recursively. >> >> For instance, a Money object may consist of Amount and Currency. If two >> Moneys are compared using `~=`, and Money does not implement a magic >> method, Amount also doesn't implement it, but Currency does, then Amounts >> are compared using `~=` which is equal to `==` comparison in this case, >> but Currencies are compared using their custom comparison logic. >> >> This approach allows combining >> - no BC break - `~=` is a new syntax which is unavailable in older PHP >> versions >> - explicitly showing an intent that objects are compared using a custom >> comparison, rather than standard PHP one >> - allow to skip writing boilerplate equals() methods which just forward >> equals() to the nested objects >> - standardize such comparisons on the language level >> >> Of course how exactly this operator looks may be changed, `~=` is just an >> example. >> >> WDYT? >> >> Regards, >> Illia / someniatko > > I like it. > > One thing I really like about this proposal is that, in theory, it > could open the door to new operators like ~<, ~<=, ~!, ~= which can be > similarly implemented. > > It also makes me wonder if something similar to scala can be > implemented, where any operator beginning with "~" can just call an > associated magic method. I'm not sure how it would be implemented > though, since I don't think you can use symbols/operators in method > names. But if you wanted a pipe operator, you could add one via ~|. > It'd allow for more useful DSL's that are implemented in PHP, as > currently, it doesn't really make sense to create a DSL that is > actually PHP since you can't override any operators. > > That being said, my only criticism is that it will be really easy to > forget the ~ when writing code. It's a true shame that overloading > wasn't added to the language, as it makes it an impractical language > for entire classes of problems/solutions. > > Robert Landers > Software Engineer > Utrecht NL
Honestly I'm still on team operator-override. *Most* major languages have operator overloading, and it doesn't seem to cause a problem. (According to my research, C++, Kotlin, Swift, Rust, C#, Haskell, Python, and Ruby all have operator overloading. Go, TypeScript, PHP, and Javascript do not. Java has comparison-only overloading so it's in the middle.) Most of the "it causes so many problems" arguments are, from what I can tell, greatly over-exaggerated. More to the point, the key question is whether anyone who voted No on the previous operator overloading RFC would vote Yes on an operator-overloading-but-only-with-an-opt-in-prefix RFC. If not, then it doesn't really buy us anything. If so, then it's possible as a compromise but would, frankly, be strictly inferior to just using the native operators we already have. So the real question is: Would anyone who voted No on operator overloading before vote Yes on it if it used ~=, ~>, ~+, etc. instead? ---Larry Garfield -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: https://www.php.net/unsub.php
