On Thu, Jun 27, 2024 at 2:29 PM Jordan LeDoux <jordan.led...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On Thu, Jun 27, 2024 at 11:13 AM Deleu <deleu...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Who would build it is an extremely key aspect of making changes to PHP. >> Ideas are hard enough to survive the RFC process when there's already an >> implementation. Finding a sponsor to work on this would be the first step. >> >> ... >> > I like the idea but I'm a bit skeptical until we have some buy-in from >> someone that could actually get this implemented. >> >> -- >> Marco Deleu >> > > Perhaps, though a conversation like this is helpful. Some rather > complicated RFCs do get approved/voted on before an implementation is done > when contributors who are familiar with the Zend engine get on board early. > Conversely, there are some extremely thoroughly implemented complicated > RFCs that get rejected because most voters don't participate in discussion > until voting is actually started. Something as broad as this probably > requires an off-list discussion with key active contributors, because > participation on list is so hit-and-miss. > > Jordan > Agreed. I've seen both of those occur so I want to avoid both. Even if large sections of the discussion are eventually done off list to avoid getting lost in bike-shed issues, the members of the list, or at least the voting members of the list should be kept updated periodically to prevent the project from going down an unpopular path. The only thing I'm truly sure about with this is that it will be profoundly difficult to do. But it needs to be addressed because PHP is starting to lag behind in this area.
