> On Jul 10, 2024, at 2:56 AM, Jordan LeDoux <jordan.led...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> On Tue, Jul 9, 2024 at 11:42 PM Mike Schinkel <m...@newclarity.net 
> <mailto:m...@newclarity.net>> wrote:
> [snip]
> My one useful takeaway from your email — except that I already knew that — 
> was the need to figure out how PHP can handle multiple symbol tables.  Beyond 
> that, your take your own advice and spare us (me) from your contempt and 
> condescension as they are not good looks on anyone.
> 
> While Larry was very blunt (and I don't really fault him for that either), 
> that should not be your only takeaway. The short version was that he was 
> telling you, and the other people in this thread, to stop pontificating and 
> to do something that resembles developing/researching a solution.

Why support a claim that assumes I have not been developing/researching a 
solution when you have absolutely no knowledge of what I have been doing? (I 
have in-fact been researching and developing a PoC. Full time for the past 
week, actually.)

> A lot of the people who actually have experience working on the engine are 
> literally ignoring this conversation right now (and may come back to it next 
> month) because it's just too much noise and nonsense right when we're near 
> feature freeze.
> 
> Your focus and intent to drive this discussion towards trying to duplicate 
> composer reduces its usefulness. I get that you do not like 
> PSR-4/composer/whatever. I honestly cannot wade through the 15,000-ish words 
> you've sent in these threads to nail down the specifics. But I know for a 
> fact that an attempt to redesign composer is:

You claim "my focus and intent" is to "duplicate composer" and yet you claim 
you "honestly cannot wade through the 15,000-ish words?"  

If you haven't read my email, then how exactly do you know what my focus and 
intent has been?

In fact, my focus and intent has *not* been to duplicate composer. FULL STOP.

But since I already fully explained my focus and intent then — other than the 
fact you didn't read it — it would do a disservice to everyone to repeat it.

> 1. Orthogonal to PHP modules (they have nothing to do with each other from a 
> design perspective).
> 2. Doomed to failure. 
> 
> Your one useful takeaway, that Larry gave you specific steps for, is to focus 
> on the feature the original proposer of the thread was trying for, instead of 
> continuing to derail it into composer-related nonsense.

If you wanted to quiet a thread that obviously annoys you for some reason it 
would seem the last thing you to do is immediately knee-jerk a reply with three 
(3) different straw man accusations — each of which can easily be disproven by 
reading my email to which you replied — when just ignoring the email was your 
option.

-Mike

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