Le jeu. 18 juil. 2024 à 09:08, Rob Landers <rob@bottled.codes> a écrit :

> On Wed, Jul 17, 2024, at 20:31, Nicolas Grekas wrote:
>
> Dear all,
>
> Le mar. 16 juil. 2024 à 17:51, Nicolas Grekas <
> nicolas.grekas+...@gmail.com> a écrit :
>
> Hi there,
>
> Le mar. 16 juil. 2024 à 10:13, Nicolas Grekas <
> nicolas.grekas+...@gmail.com> a écrit :
>
>
>
> Le lun. 15 juil. 2024 à 21:42, Tim Düsterhus <t...@bastelstu.be> a écrit :
>
> Hi
>
> On 7/15/24 09:25, Nicolas Grekas wrote:
> > Testing is actually a good domain where resetting lazy objects might open
> > interesting use cases.
> > This reminded me about zenstruck/foundry, which leverages the
> > LazyProxyTrait to provide refreshable fixture objects
> > <
> https://symfony.com/bundles/ZenstruckFoundryBundle/current/index.html#auto-refresh
> >
> > and provides nice DX thanks to this capability.
> >
>
> I have not used this library before, but I have taken a (very) brief
> look at the code and documentation.
>
> My understanding is that all the fixture objects are generated by a
> corresponding Factory class. This factory clearly has the capability of
> constructing objects by itself, so it could just create a lazy proxy
> instead?
>
> I'm seeing the `instantiateWith()` example in the documentation where
> the user can return a constructed object themselves, but I'm not seeing
> how that can safely be combined with the `reset*()` methods: Anything
> special the user did to construct the object would be reverted, so the
> user might as well rely on the default construction logic of the factory
> then.
>
> What am I missing?
>
>
> Finding the spot where the reset method would be useful is not easy. Here
> it is:
>
> https://github.com/zenstruck/foundry/blob/v2.0.7/src/Persistence/IsProxy.php#L66-L76
>
> Basically, the reset method is not needed when creating the lazy proxy.
> But it's needed to refresh it when calling $object->_refresh(). The
> implementation I just linked swaps the real object bound to the proxy for
> another one (the line
> "Configuration::instance()->persistence()->refresh($object);" swaps by
> reference).
>
>
>
> After chatting a bit with Benjamin on Slack, I realized that the sentence
> "The indented use-case is for an object to manage its own laziness by
> calling the method in its constructor" was a bit restrictive and that there
> are more use cases for reset methods.
>
> Here is the revised part about resetAsLazyGhost in the RFC:
>
> This method allows an object to manage its own laziness by calling the
> method in its constructor, as demonstrated here
> <https://gist.github.com/arnaud-lb/9d52e2ba4e278411bff3addf75ce56be>. In
> such cases, the proposed lazy-object API can be used to achieve lazy
> initialization at the implementation detail level.
>
> Another use case for this method is to achieve resettable services. In
> these scenarios, a service object already inserted into a complex
> dependency graph can be reset to its initial state using the lazy object
> infrastructure, without its implementation being aware of this concern. A
> concrete example of this use case is the Doctrine EntityManager, which can
> end up in a hard to recover <https://github.com/doctrine/orm/issues/5933>
> "closed" state, preventing its use in long-running processes. However, thanks
> to the lazy-loading code infrastructure
> <https://github.com/symfony/symfony/blob/1a16ebc32598faada074e0af12a6a698d2964a5e/src/Symfony/Bridge/Doctrine/ManagerRegistry.php#L42>,
> recovering from such a state is possible. This method would be instrumental
> in achieving this capability without resorting to the current complex code
> used in userland.
>
> I hope this helps.
>
>
> A bit unrelated to the above topic: we've further clarified the RFC by
> addition restrictions to what can be done with lazy proxies. Namely, when
> the factory returns an object from a parent class, we describe that adding
> more on the proxy class would throw, and we also explain why. We also added
> a restriction to prevent a proxy from having an overridden __clone or
> __destruct when the factory returns a parent, and explained why again.
>
> This should simplify the overall behavior by preventing edge case that
> wouldn't have easy answers. If those limitations prove too restrictive in
> practice (my experience tells me they should be fine), they could be
> leveraged in the future.
>
> On our side, this should close the last topics we wanted to address before
> opening the vote.
>
> Please let us know if anyone has other concerns.
>
> Cheers,
> Nicolas
>
>
> If you cannot use an instance of a subclass as the actual object, then it
> the methods probably shouldn't exist on ReflectionClass since you use that
> to reflect on interfaces and abstract classes. This also limits the
> usability, as for example, in a container, you might know that the type you
> need to return is MyInterface, but not know what type the actual factory
> will return.
>


Proxying by interface is not in the scope of this RFC. For that, one can
use code generation, and libraries like symfony/var-exporter provide all
the tools to make it easy to do.

Nicolas

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