> On 2 Aug 2024, at 05:26, Derick Rethans <der...@php.net> wrote:
> 
> On 1 August 2024 22:57:36 BST, Ilija Tovilo <tovilo.il...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:tovilo.il...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> Hi everyone
>> 
>> We've gotten a bug report about compile errors in the PHP 8.4 alpha on
>> old C99 compilers (and on some modern compilers when passing the
>> -std=c99 flag). Specifically, C99 does not support typedef
>> redeclarations, which is a C11 feature.
>> 
>> ```c
>> // some_header.h
>> typedef struct _zval_struct zval;
>> void some_func(zval *zv);
>> 
>> // zend_types.h
>> struct _zval_struct { ... };
>> typedef struct _zval_struct zval;
>> ```
>> 
>> Some headers might want to forward declare zval so that zend_types.h
>> doesn't have to be included. The two primary reasons you might want to
>> avoid that are 1. to reduce compile times if the header is very large
>> and 2. to prevent recursive header dependencies.
>> 
>> However, in C99 this code is actually illegal if both of these headers
>> end up being included, because redeclarations of typedefs are not
>> allowed. To fix it, the typedef must be removed and the signatures
>> must refer to the struct directly.
>> 
>> ```c
>> // some_header.h
>> struct _zval_struct;
>> void some_func(struct _zval_struct *zv);
>> ```
>> 
>> I started fixing these in a PR [1] which required more changes than
>> expected. After a short discourse, we were wondering whether it might
>> be better to switch to a newer C standard instead. Our coding
>> standards [2] currently specify that compiling php-src requires C99.
>> The Unix installation page on php.net [3] claims it is ANSI C, which
>> is certainly outdated. There have been suggestions to require C11 for
>> a while, which should be well supported by all compilers shipped with
>> maintained distributions.
>> 
>> GCC gained support for C11 in 4.7 [4], LLVM Clang in 3.1, both
>> released in 2012. For context, Debian Bullseye comes with GCC 10.2
>> [5], Ubuntu Focal Fossa comes with GCC 9.3 [6], RHEL 8 comes with GCC
>> 8.x [7]. 
> 
> Even Debian wheezy (out of extended LTS support) or Ubuntu 14.04 have GCC 
> 4.7, so that seems OK. 
> 
> How about Clang (for OSX) though? I can't check that easily. 
> 
> cheers 
> Derick 


Hi,

According to 
https://releases.llvm.org/3.1/docs/ClangReleaseNotes.html#cchanges, Clang 3.1 
added C11.

According to https://trac.macports.org/wiki/XcodeVersionInfo, Clang 3.1 shipped 
with Xcode 4.3.3, in May 2012. 

In terms of confirming this, the oldest macOS VM I have quick access to is 
running Sierra (from 2016, last OS update in 2019), and default install now for 
Clang on that VM is 9.0.0


Hope this helps


Cheers

Stephen 

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